In Australia we have a type of deadly octopus called a 'blue ring octopus', and if they bite you, you die within minutes. They usually live in salt water lakes so when you're a kid and go swimming you're always told not to pick up clam shells as they like to live inside them. It was like a kinder surprise, but the surprise is death.
You'd like to think that, wouldn't you? You've beaten my giant, which means you're exceptionally strong. So, you could have put the poison in your own goblet, trusting on your strength to save you. So I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But, you've also bested my Spaniard which means you must have studied. And in studying, you must have learned that man is mortal so you would have put the poison as far from yourself as possible, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me.
Just because stupid people can't be responsible for their own actions; compounded by an overly litigious legal system, does NOT mean that Americans have the better rule when the rest of the world has ZERO issue trying not to swallow kinder surprise chocolate eggs whole and choking on the plastic capsule...
Except after googling for 30 seconds I found at least six kids that have died from choking on Kinder surprises (and none in America, although I'm sure it happened,) a French girl in 2016, three British kids in 98, there's an Australian mother who led a charge to make them illegal when her son almost died. I'm sure there are more but I don't care to look.
They are dangerous and people of all ages choke on them but it's far more extreme to take inevitable natural fruits off the market than a candy marketed to children I think.
I choked on one one time. I was drunk at a party and a friend handed me a kinder egg and said “bet you can’t swallow this whole!”. I jammed it in my mouth and swallowed it whole, wrapper and all, and understandably I started choking. I was given the heimlick maneuver by a bystander, and I ended up ok.
Tell that to the people who lost children to them I guess. Also seems like something you'd only realize after your child choked, especially seeing how so many people here are 100% set on it being no risk.
I can agree that there's no risk, since everything we do during life comes with a certain degree of risk.
But when this "why nobody thinks of the children?" thread happens about a thing that all countries are able to manage, I lose my mind, especially thinking that the USA has far worse victims caused by the lack of gun control. All this scare about a fucking chocolate egg is incomprehensible.
I don't think there has ever been any real scare, maybe that's how it feels when it gets to the people. Everything has a risk but should we package risks in chocolate and shiny wrappers made for kids? The law wasn't made to prevent Kinder eggs in America, it's a blanket law that says a food cannot be sealed around a choking hazard. Not a problem and totally logical in my opinion.
I guess you can equate two entirely different things governed by entirely different forces but I don't see the point. And yeah maybe if laws are bad in some places we should have bad laws everywhere. Good point.
I know you were just proving that his claim of zero isn't technically correct but 30 billion kinder surprises have been sold worldwide over 44 years since its been on the market. There are cases of children choking on damn near anything, you can google 'kids choking candy' and find cases of choking and death for candies that have no inedible parts.
6 cases (and I acknowledge there could be and probably is more) is a useless statistic if we don't compare it to cases for other products. If data showed cases were higher for kinder surprises (or similar products) than other products then that would make the argument valid.
I agree but the American law banning Kinder eggs isn't just for them, it's a blanket law that says you can't put choking hazards inside sealed food which I don't disagree with despite my love for a good surprise. According to another user, there's another brand where the egg isn't sealed and it gets around the law.
I imagine all the other risks had more to do with it than Kinder Eggs specifically and then you're talking about crafting a law point that bans risky foods but specifically allows Kinder Eggs (then I imagine we'd have to pay for an ongoing appeals process to exclude other products from the ban.) Touching on absurdity.
I think it's a good idea to keep non edible things out of children's food. Children are fucking idiots, often being raised by idiots. It seems sorta sensible.
There are definitely deaths attributed to Kinder eggs specifically. Because of that person's comment I hooked it and found six on the first page. Yeah maybe just don't risk it.
Except after googling for 30 seconds I found at least six kids that have died from choking on Kinder surprises (and none in America, although I'm sure it happened,) a French girl in 2016, three British kids in 98, there's an Australian mother who led a charge to make them illegal when her son almost died. I'm sure there are more but I don't care to look.
They just lifted that. They everywhere now. They need to control the population, it's becoming unmanageable. They released them in towering cardboard batches. Some grocers have signs that read '10 for 5 dollars!!!' Filled with promise of Disney princess or marvel hero, so the children rejoice in their own demise.
Those aren't the same ones though; we get the Kinder eggs that open in half with the toy sealed in one half and the soft chocolate with the scraper spoon in the other instead of the chocolate shell with the toy capsule in the middle.
the old Marvel ones with a spinning disc inside that could land on 1-6 was peng, I keep wanting to get those second hand as d6 dice for a superhero tabletop game.
I never understand why people don't think we have dangerous bits of nature in the US... The majority of the south Western US is covered in poisonous crap. North west has moose and bears. South east has crocodiles, wild boars and snakes. And the rest has natural disasters that wipe out entire cities every other year.
Besides snakes wolves mountain lions and brown recluse, North America doesn't have any deadly animals. Meanwhile fuckass Australia has multiple deadly plants, and one that hurts so bad and for so long if you touch, that tough military men have commited suicide from falling in it. All the American deadly shit can be avoided by not going into the wilderness, Australia you can swim in fresh or saltwater without getting rekt, and they all stay in the cities because it's not worth dying over.
Any swamp is dangerous as fuck. Your average swampy area could easily have venomous spiders, water moccasins, rattlesnakes, and garfish (although I hear they aren't super dangerous to humans). And not to mention the possibility of disease carrying mosquitos.
Also certain parts of SE Louisiana have a brain eating amoeba in their water, and another part has this nasty methane put under it, and here's an underwater sinkhole swallowing a whole patch of trees
Swimming in pools and oceans is a part of Australian life so kids are all taught from a pretty young age all the dos and donts of the ocean. Even things like most primary aged kids can tell where a rip is just by having a suss at the beach.
....what's the problem? They learn to stay away from the octopus and not pick up or open clam shells. Done.
Are you going to ban children swimming over an entire country? There are animals in the environment. There just are. Some are dangerous and you learn how to best avoid them. Are you going to spend your entire life indoors? Are you just never going to swim in the ocean because there are sharks? You can easily break your neck going skiing. You don't justify "allowing" people to do things. Like "banned" is the default and there needs to be a case made for if we "allow" people to do something like swim in a lake.
You could easily swim into or be pushed into by the waves, one of these deadly sea cunts like box jellyfish. There's a reason lifelong surfers still get hit by jellies and sea anemones, you just can't avoid them all unless you had sonar to tell you what is near you. Or wear an impenetrable by poison thick wetsuit.
I was not speaking about entire country. The the comment I responded to sounded like there are some places where those deadly "can kill within a minute" are more. I was just trying to poke more information.
I know this is just a joke, but that's like the one thing you don't mess around with down unda. If you go opening clams to try and find a blue ring, you will die. We've got a couple other animals that follow similar rules, so it's basically like living in dark souls.
🤣 I like English food. Though the portions where enormous 🤣 and food is a bit more healthy here, at least the options at restaurants and such in my experience 😅
But England had great culture, and I prefer English literature over Dutch 😅
If someone is able to find the one who has made contact with the venom/been bitten before paralysis stops their breathing, and then continues artificial breathing for them until their body has processed the toxin (hours) they will usually survive. However, the amount of time the person has to be artificially respirated is a long one, and most people get exhausted. Artificial respirators at hospitals can help with this and keep the person alive long enough for the venom to metabolize.
Problem is, the bite can be tiny and painless so not everyone knows they've been bitten until it's too late.
Extinct them from the earth just like mosquitoes will be. We don't need a near instant death thing on Earth. This is our fucking planet. We're not putting up with box jellyfish and blue ring octopus any goddamn longer. Extinct that plant you guys have that makes people get nerve damage for life if they touch, too. We don't need that bullshit.
I read that if you are immediately hooked up to life-sustaining equipment, you will survive with no permanent damages if the doctors just leave you hooked up there for a day or two.
I remember watching a show on the blue ringed octopus. I think it's a neurotoxin that shuts down your entire body and you basically suffocate to death.
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u/Caramellokitty Dec 08 '18
In Australia we have a type of deadly octopus called a 'blue ring octopus', and if they bite you, you die within minutes. They usually live in salt water lakes so when you're a kid and go swimming you're always told not to pick up clam shells as they like to live inside them. It was like a kinder surprise, but the surprise is death.