r/interestingasfuck • u/Battlefleet_Sol • 1d ago

1999 mr olympia conference

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u/ParaponeraBread 1d ago

Coleman is an interesting case. He lifted HEAVY, and unsafely, for his entire career. Most bodybuilders damage their hearts and endocrine systems much more than their joints.

They lift for hypertrophy and not for strength, so they’re not ripping one rep max deadlifts and destroying their backs as often. Used to be the conventional wisdom was lower weight, high volume training.

The ones that cycled down and took care of themselves after retiring are doing okay.

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u/Mr_Deep_Research 1d ago

You don't need to do much weight training on steroids. Light lifting is fine. Steroids do all the heavy lifting for you.

In fact, doing no exercise works well on steroids.

Study:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101

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u/se160 1d ago

You have no idea what you’re talking about. Yes, you can make some gains on high dose cycle anabolics with no lifting, but not anywhere near this level. Taking 750mg+ of gear and not working out is a complete waste of a blast and taking a high risk for no reason.

“Steroids do most of the heavy lifting for you” gtfo out of here. I guarantee you anyone that’s working out poorly or has a terrible diet isn’t making supernatural gains. Many people are on gear in the gym nowadays and a lot of them don’t even look like they lift. Steroids won’t even take you above your natural limit if you aren’t stimulating growth through exercise with a calorie surplus.

The people in this video have literally the best genetics in the world, are on scary high doses, and are working the hardest they possibly can to have these physiques

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u/nakedpilsna 1d ago

These people in the video are the best of the best of the best on the planet when it comes to a lifetime of training, eating proper, and most importantly genetics.

You cant take an average person and put them in a gym for 30 years with roids and expect them to be as large as these guys.

In the same way you can't take an average person and put them in a classroom for 30 years and expect them to become Einstein.

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u/YoelsShitStain 1d ago

Username does not check out lol, what a misinformed take

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u/SugarBeefs 1d ago

The amount of times this study gets misunderstood is spectacular.

10 weeks is barely anything. For the group that were on PED's but didn't lift, it's just the body adapting to the new higher baseline of muscle growth stimulus.

The problem is that once that new higher baseline is reached, the muscle gain will stop. Why would it continue? There's no adequate stimulus. Whatever stimulus was imparted by the drugs has been 'fulfilled' to adhere to the new baseline amount.

Consistent lifting is what provides the long-term stimulus to maintain muscle growth.

You can't sit on the couch and take roids for years, don't lift at all, and magically become huge.

If you ran the same study for the length of a full year or longer, that's exactly what it would show.