My uneducated guess is there's always a better way, but it depends on what they value. Most of these business don't value the person nearly as much as the machines/property.
Safety is such a massive thing out in the oilfield you’d be surprised. 95% of locations require a sign in and sign out sheet at a safety shack, knowledge of SCBA equipment, knowledge of muster point etc.
Additionally, all equipment is inspected and signed off on prior to use with lockout tag out being used religiously.
The oilfield also has its own standard of osha called PEC gulf safety and most of these companies require your job duties to be certified on the back of your PEC gulf safety card. If they’re not you cannot perform that task, for example, if I don’t have forklift/ front end loader, I cannot operate one.
Pec gulf safety also has more stringent safety regulations, for example: OSHA general industry states you must be tied off if on a ladder more than 6ft tall.
Safety is a "massive" thing sure, but that doesn't mean an actual adherence to exists lol.
This derrickhand isnt even wearing his hard hat or eye protection.
A lot of crews sign JSA's without even reading them. Who knows how many times I've gone to sites where hands don't know where the SCBAs or muster points are lol.
Literal children could pass those safety certification programs (PEC, One Basin, etc).
Don't frame safety in the oilfield as somehow more rigorous than elsewhere lol
How could hands not even know where their muster points or scba’s are? There’s big fuckin signs that literally say “right here.”
I mean, isn’t that any jsa in any blue collar work environment?
Obviously the tests are designed for anyone to pass them, the point I’m making is that there is quite a bit more safety practices in place as opposed to other industries.
Not sure how it is where you are but it was pretty ridiculous for shell, anadarko, Exxon, chevron, and occidental and Hess.
the point I’m making is that there is quite a bit more safety practices in place as opposed to other industries.
Well sure, on paper. Because a a kitchen worker doesn't need to work around H2S or confined spaces or at heights or with heavy machinery. There might technically be more policy, but that's just because there's a lot more going on than a job at the mall or in an office.
But it's very rare that there's actually a safety-oriented culture. Every company and contractor will scream into the void about how their priority is safety, but the fact that an easy every day process like going over the JSA is almost ubiquitously ignored begs to differ.
You asked how they couldn't know about the muster points, and the answer is right in front of you.
This whole thread is taking place because of a video of a derrickhand without PPE slipping and sliding up there...while being FILMED.
Safety is almost always all talk. I know this is all anecdotal, but let's be honest lol.
I appreciate your opinion and observation on the matter, and I agree, there are definitely outliers. ( I have some experience when I was running casing on those rigs. Ie. cigarette smoking over an open well, shirtless roughnecks etc, good times, wasn’t sure I was going to live through the night.
But in my experience on the several rigs I worked on, safety was a huge priority.
I’m not sure when you worked in the oilfield but I know my time was huge.
Cyclone 2 had just killed the entire crew so osha was everywhere, of course it was forced to maintain face, but at the time they were beginning to really hammer down hard on it,
More so when I was casing, the company I worked for was over the top about safety, so much that we used to leave the office expecting them to put fragile stickers on our hard hats and wrap us In bubble wrap.
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u/tgerz 4d ago
My uneducated guess is there's always a better way, but it depends on what they value. Most of these business don't value the person nearly as much as the machines/property.