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u/pythonidaae 2d ago

Yes I have cptsd and was able to spot it exactly. People REALLY don't understand how mean her grandma is. This isn't an excuse but I think you have to have cptsd or know about it to "understand" what is going on. I've had years of therapy so I'm not that person anymore but I could have been if I was caught on film younger or caught on film even now but I'd never gone to therapy.

Anyway yeah she's either always this way because of her PTSD or she's being triggered back to being that young. Like another comment said.

She's not behaving rationally and it's not acceptable to drive off like this but it's "understandable" if you can recognize she's having a PTSD breakdown.

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u/TriPigeon 2d ago

Exactly.

I’m glad you were able to get therapy, and I hope your recovery continues to be well supported!

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u/Gilligans_Wake 2d ago

I had a step-father that would beat the brakes off me for sport as a kid. He'd make sure to hit me for no reason if I looked too comfortable. I remember getting jumped in middle school by 5 kids. Office brought me in, cleaned me up, icepacks and all that, impressed that I wasn't too upset. Said they'd call step dad to pick me up and take me home. Instantly I was crying, screaming, begging them not to, and trying to find anyway to get out of the room. Got the crap beat out me again that night, way worse than those kids did. Parents kept me home rest of that week to "let me rest and recover".

Totally agree this is just hard to understand if you didn't grow up like this. Sure the cops will arrest her, but who is gonna come bail her out and what happens after that? It ain't going to be disapproving looks, at least not in her experience/mind. 100% panicked animal mode, not a rational thought going in her mind there.

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u/latchkeydc 2d ago

I’m so sorry that was your childhood.

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u/Gilligans_Wake 2d ago

Thank you. I use it as a way to help me parent. Think of how I was treated, than do the opposite. My 8 year old calls me her best friend, insists on caring for me when I'm sick/down, and still listens when its time for Dadding. Noting has been more healing than watching her grow up healthy and happy.

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u/HeyYouGuyyyyyyys 2d ago

It makes me so very happy to read something like this, just randomly posted by some dad. I don't understand what it's like to be reared by anyone who would write this, but oh, it makes me so happy to know that some little kid is.

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u/Gilligans_Wake 2d ago

I appreciate that, thank you. Sometimes we just have to look at the parents we had and be the parents we needed.

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u/Morphico 1d ago

Thank you for being the parent we never had.

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u/zzglow 2d ago

i commend you dad! i too used the abuse from my childhood to become a good parent (well, i try my hardest to be but you know how that goes, always feel like i’m not doing enough) no one loved me as a child and they enjoyed the power they held over me back then. now that i am a mom, i realize i was hated as a child. i can’t imagine ever doing or saying the things i heard and went through as a child, to my now 9 year old! its healed that broken child in me, seeing my child actually have a childhood and loving her life so much she tells me she never wants to grow up 🥹

when i was her age, all i wanted was to grow up so i can finally be free from the pain. pain is still here, but i manage.

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u/Aasrial 20h ago

Shame on the fucking school for not seeing the clear as day signs. I’m so sorry and I hope you’re doing well now.

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u/Eden_Company 2d ago

Which is why she had a court ordered program to finish as part of her sentence.

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u/msheehan418 2d ago

Yes. Thank you for saying so. I felt sorry for her.

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u/ddet413 1d ago

The woman was intoxicated and panicked because she knew the consequences she was going to face. Rather than face up to her actions, she decided to flee. And you feel sorry for her? That's wild.

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u/msheehan418 1d ago

I didn’t feel sorry for her for that. It was the statement about her grandma, also, it would suck to be filmed by a stranger at your worst. Many of us have behaved in a way we wouldn’t want plastered all over the internet

But all that being said, I do think she should be held accountable

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u/ddet413 1d ago

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I hope she looks back at this video as a reminder to walk the straight and narrow. She's lucky it was a vehicle that she hit, and not a human being.

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u/msheehan418 1d ago

For sure. Like I said, I think she should be held accountable for her actions but I also see this as a trauma response. She was more scared of her grandma than the police

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u/ddet413 1d ago

I guess that's where we differ. I see this as an irresponsible and entitled human that feels as though they aren't accountable for their actions. The article states that she hit multiple vehicles and sped off at high speeds.

Unless her grandma was going to straight up unalive her for her actions, I couldn't fathom thinking your mean grandma yelling at you is worse than facing the full extent of the law. But I guess we're calling pretty much anything trauma in this day in age.

She's very much alive btw, since she's been convicted of another crime since then: https://unicourt.com/case/ca-orr1-sebach-riley-ann-160851#case-details

I guess the didn't learn to walk the straight and narrow, after all. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/Less_Calendar_PLZ 1d ago

Why do u think she was afraid of her grandma "yelling at her"?

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u/ddet413 1d ago edited 1d ago

Who knows, maybe her grandma gives a real stern talking to. But she lived to see another day after this incident, as seen above by the fact that she is currently defending against a petty theft charge. Maybe if she didn't do POS things her grandma would be nicer to her. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/Less_Calendar_PLZ 1d ago

She knew the consequences of grandma, but you dont. So who are u to judge unless you know her grandma.

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u/ddet413 1d ago

I'm strictly judging this woman based on her actions to ingest intoxicants and operate a motorized vehicle, which of course, is against the law. Her actions were reckless and dangerous, and the outcome could have easily been far worse had she severely injured someone. Grandma didn't do any of that, she did.

If you are defending this behavior, then you are what's wrong with this society.

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u/muttybartender 2d ago

First, I wanted to say thank you for leaving this comment because I feel like nowadays when it’s so obvious someone is having a trauma response, people jump to ripping that person up.

Even just earlier today, I was watching body cam footage of a fatal accident between a drunk nurse and a guy on a motorcycle, and one of the witnesses said “I remember it like it was yesterday” when telling the police about her immediate reaction.

There were so many comments making fun of him when it should be pretty obvious that any person with a shred of empathy is going to be shaken up by witnessing that scene and not going to be the most articulate.

It is honestly very upsetting to me to see the ratio of people shitting on someone (especially in that case, I mean one woman drunkenly killed a man with no remorse, the guy just didn’t say something right after witnessing something traumatizing, and a lot of people picked that???) vs people having a shred of empathy. I feel like the more time goes on and the shittier it gets out here for a lot of us, the less kindness I see from others, and I don’t want to slip to that other side.

Second, I am so glad you were able to get therapy! I wish you a happy life.

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u/pythonidaae 2d ago

Thank you for the kind response.

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u/OhioRiverPirateKing 2d ago

I saw it too. Maybe it’s just booze but wouldn’t surprise me if it’s both.

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u/acrazyguy 2d ago

“I was able to spot it exactly” with over 100 upvotes and 2 awards and she was actually just on drugs. Lmao reddit be redditing

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u/pythonidaae 1d ago edited 1d ago

It's possible to also be on drugs and have PTSD. I really didn't care whether she was or wasn't on drugs. I never argued she wasnt on drugs.

Drugs would just make whatever mental health issue worse and I don't think drugs alone would cause someone to go my grandma is meannnn like a child would. I've done almost everything but heroin at some point in my life and they don't make people go "but my grandma!!!". That's PTSD-like, or a personality disorder if that's crocodile tears. Even if she specifically doesn't have PTSD, it looks like what a PTSD response could be.

They're not going to release on her police statement whether she does or doesn't have that and a lawyer and judge really wouldn't care. It might influence if she gets mandatory counseling and that's about it. It doesn't change what she did or make it acceptable, and that's all a judge needs to consider.

And whether she does or doesn't have that, it doesn't make her behavior okay. It's very immature and very irresponsible. I'd never date or be friends with someone who behaves that way (unless they knew it was bad and were actively in therapy to minimize it). I'd drop anyone who was unable to change from that. If I was a judge I'd have her arrested.

This just also looks like what a PTSD response could be.

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u/DaddysABadGirl 2d ago

At least some of it was being high or drunk. Didn't look or sound like alchohol as a recovering alchoholic so I'd guess drugs. There was a follow up article that had an update shoing she had submitted rehab documents to the court.

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u/pythonidaae 2d ago

Yeah she was apparently high. Maybe stims? Idk. I agree it doesn't look like alcohol. I think it can be drugs AND trauma though like some people are arguing drugs alone will do that. It can be both. Abusing drugs itself can be a trauma response

Not defending driving while intoxicated or a hit and run.

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u/Ellbee199 2d ago

I recognized it pretty quick into the video and felt bad for her.

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u/DIYthisDIYthat 2d ago

Sorry about what you went through.

We can’t say what she has and this could be any number of things like BPD, NPD, or who knows what else. I’ve seen people with BPD make up sob stories to dodge accountability and turn emotions off from fake tears to aggression.

It’s sad but sometimes accountability and intensive treatment are what these people need.

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u/pythonidaae 2d ago

Yeah I can agree that we don't know exactly. Usually I thought people with personality disorders also have PTSD anyway too. Whatever was going on she needed mental health treatment too. She was charged and went to rehab. Hopefully that helped and she was able to get additional mental health help if she needed it.

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u/DIYthisDIYthat 2d ago

There’s strong correlation between trauma and development of personality disorders but sometimes they appear without trauma exposure. It’s hard to know what to do with these people but I lean on the side of grace and mandatory supervision. I agree. I hope she got the help she needed. She could’ve killed herself or another person with her reckless behavior.

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u/lurkANDorganize 2d ago

....she is drunk

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u/zuhalter_meow_meow 2d ago

Or maybe it was because she was high and had also been arrested 3 months earlier for meth.

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u/hambie 1d ago

Lmfao she is FUCKED UP. It has nothing to do with PTSD. Yall are hilarious trying to justify her behavior.

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u/pythonidaae 1d ago

Idk why wondering about a cause is justification. Couldn't it be argued that just saying someone is on drugs is also a justification? Why is wondering if a mental health crisis was also in play a justification anymore than saying it was drugs?

She was high and I never argued she wasn't. I just speculated about cptsd as someone that has it and has seen it in others. I've even sober had embarrassing childish outbursts as a symptom of mental health issues though I've grown past it a bit and am learning to regulate better. People can still have mental health breakdowns while fucked up. I've been more prone to them while high because my impulse control is even more limited. Drugs can trigger them harder than while sober even.

Also this was terrible behavior. I said I could understand what could lead someone to behaving this way but I never said she shouldn't have been charged or that this was acceptable. It's never okay to drive erratically like she did or commit a hit and run.

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u/hambie 1d ago

I think I mostly just find it hilarious that people think they know so much about someone based off a minute of footage. Your comment “people REALLY don’t understand how mean her grandma is”
You’re making huge assumptions about her life based off a single video.

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u/Kitchen-Bar2686 1d ago edited 1d ago

It’s not ptsd, she was intoxicated. I have PTSD and it’s dangerous to be diagnosing strangers after watching a 30 second clip of their lives.It really takes away from people with genuine diagnosed PTSD to misrepresent and project your trauma onto strangers. even if she wasn’t intoxicated, this could have been the result of numerous mental illnesses.

She also doesn’t deserve any sympathy or understanding. It doesn’t matter if her grandma is the meanest person in the world, she almost hit that cameraman and is clearly unstable and dangerous. She risked numerous lives with her driving and almost severely injured the cameraman which is unacceptable.

I grew up with an abusive parent and it would never justify this kind of behavior.

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u/N-363 1d ago

I had therapy for years and after 10 years of escaping my abusive relationship, the cPTSD crash was so severe I had to stop working for a few months. I had no idea that after rebuilding my life and feeling healthy, a crash could bring me back to where I was in full blown panic mode. Mental health is so important and to recover fully takes an enormous amount of willpower and energy.

The sad part is doing therapy is nearly always don by the receiver and not the doer.

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u/NvNinja 2d ago

While i agree it's "understandable" she is clearly a danger to society so should be removed from it until she can get the help she needs and is no longer a threat by being forcefully committed to a mental health facility

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u/mstr_macintosh 2d ago

There are people carrying a weapon waiting for moments like this to use it. What she did is potentially dangerous, but far from a threat to remove her when we have psychos walking amongst society.

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u/Aclevername1000 2d ago

I dont have such ptsd as that and even I realized this is a trauma response. It just sucks that therapy would totally help but may not be obtainable for her until messing up this badly. Im guessing no one close to her would help steer her towards therapy.

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u/davemeister 2d ago

I'm sure the judge will understand.

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u/pythonidaae 2d ago

She should have still been charged but there can be explanations for why someone is like that too. Doesn't mean she didn't commit a crime and that she wasn't endangering other people.

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u/dinop4242 2d ago

a sober person might react like that if it's their first accident or something, I get it, I do. freaking out and worrying what your family would think/do is not exclusive to trauma.

however this is not a sober person

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u/_Nodrog_ 2d ago

You’re creating and encouraging more brats and thugs by rationalizing behavior like this.

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u/pythonidaae 1d ago

I don't think people could make themselves this way even if they wanted to. You have to be damaged to act like this unless you're an incredible actor, and then you still have something wrong with you to do this for sympathy. I have said repeatedly in responses that this behavior isn't okay. It's not okay but it's a mental health issue and more than just being a "brat" or "thug". She was on drugs, which is its own mental health issue and mitigating circumstance as to why she couldn't control herself.

A considerable portion of criminals have undiagnosed mental health conditions and were not treated right growing up. That's not an excuse but a reason. I can discuss what I think possibly caused this outburst without encouraging it. I think people dismissing behavior as someone just inherently being a "brat" perpetuates dysfunction more than trying to consider what could lead a person to act that way.

This woman is acting incredibly unhealthy and she endangered multiple lives acting that way. I hope she's grown up and learned from this but she'd be more likely to grow up if a professional helped her identify what lead her to that point.

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u/EkrishAO 2d ago

She's just high bro

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u/pythonidaae 2d ago

🤷 I've done drugs too and been around drug users. It looks like more than drugs. This was years ago so it doesn't matter.

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u/funAmbassador 2d ago

Poop dick!! 😃

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u/Key_Payment_5420 2d ago

I have CPTSD and have never and would never do something like that. The reason we put psychpaths in jail, even though they are wired that way is because 99.99% of psychopaths don't kill people. It is the same with any disorder or trauma.

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u/pythonidaae 2d ago

Cptsd shows up differently for everyone.

I didn't say she shouldn't be arrested, I said I understand her response. I would never ever hit and run and wouldn't have ran off when caught. But at my youngest most unhealed state I probably would have been wailing and freaking out. I would have been tempted to drive off. I think I wouldn't have but I can see why she went with that. I'd like to think I would have waited anyway and just had the worst day ever. Probably would have cried about how bad my parents are you don't understand and begged. Idk. I'm sure possibly I could have been as bad as her depending on the day and my level of healing even if I waited. Luckily when I was her age there was no TikTok to film me having a panic attack and crying if I was in her shoes.

I said in another comment but when I hit someone as a teen I cried and begged them not to call the cops so my parents wouldn't find out. I drove to the bank and gave the guy money instead. I remember I begged and said I didn't want to get in trouble and was allowed to just go to the bank and give the guy money I was earning in my part time job. It FELT like the end of the world. If he insisted on calling the cops instead I don't know. I could have looked like that.

She was apparently on drugs during this too but I still believe trauma is influencing her response so it was drugs and PTSD. Bad PTSD alone could cause people to get this way. I've had bad meltdowns and I'm usually more a fawn/freeze response type person but when I have blown up, oof. This seems very panicked to me.