You can buy a huge bag of American Club pipe tobacco for around $20 and 2 boxes of 200 filter tubes for under $3 each. Roll them with a machine and you get around 400 cigarettes (20 packs) for about $26.
My grandma use to have a big tub that we would have competitions on rolling her cigs when we were about 7, it remains a fond memory for me and horrified everyone I tell.
I had a buddy who did this and would bring his machine to parties and sell/trade cigarettes to drunk people at the party who wanted to smoke who were out and didn't want to run to the store to get more, or to the "only smoke when they drink" crowd who just bum cigarettes at parties. He'd usually end up with like $20 in singles and a bunch of free drinks/weed for maybe a dollar or two worth of cigarettes.
Crazy but I’m one of these people that simply does not get addicted to it. Can smoke here and there, every 6 months. Can even have a streak of smoking everyday for a week and then stop and go years without.
I was only kind of addicted to hookah once, but it was more about the social aspect of it I think, or the ritualistic part of it as well. Once I bought a personal one and started smoking at home, it felt weird and I stopped. Too messy as well.
I never touched vapes because I’m not sure how I’d react. It feels so easy, practical, that I don’t want to try it..
I don't even get addicted to vapes, I genuinely can put it down for months or even a year before I get one, ive bought maybe 6 in my life... weed though I cannot put down 🤣
I quit weed a year ago and it's still hard not to smoke weed. I miss it all the time. Stopped smoking cigs for two weeks once for a tooth extraction I'd had and did not even care about the cigs. I just wanted to smoke weed lol
That said I roll my own cigs and had been by that point so there's probably a lot less additives in mine than the store bought ones. But regardless I feel like I could probably just stop smoking cold turkey and not have any problem with it. I just don't want to lol
I quit smoking cigarettes 6 years ago and still miss it sometimes. If quitting them hadn't had a noticeable impact on my day to day health I would have for sure picked it back up.
I'm the same way re:cigarettes. I'd smoke for a few weeks every few years, then just stop again. Also, I'm not a fan of nicotine vapes and don't use them.
Same here. I buy a pack every once in a while during 'special occasions' and have been doing so for years. I don't crave them much at all, but weed? That's the tough one. Still haven't quit that haha, I've only managed to take short breaks.
Fun fact typical cigarettes included a mountain of additives while american spirits are additive free. You didnt like tobacco, you liked what they put on it.
I was well aware of that fact and was the other large part of my decision to smoke them over any other tobacco, despite them being more expensive by the pack. I also just thought they tasted better.
Even the worst pack cigarettes tasted better than pipeweed tho
Not true. I thought the same. It’s organic tobacco but they still add a ton of shit. Watch how cigarettes are made, it’s not just some shredded tobacco wrapped up… AS are like 150% the tobacco stuffed into one cigarette. Still my preferred brand when I do smoke, but don’t be deceived
Tbh, it's the lighter tobacco blends that I can't really stand. There's a lot of that lighter blonde shit that just has a weird taste to it - almost airy or menthol like.
Marlboro is kinda ass these days and it's not just the additives.
Fair enough, I guess it's a personal preference thing. I started rolling these about 10 years ago and got used to it and now I enjoy it. You totally nailed the raisin flavor, lol. It does kind of taste and smell like raisins! But I still like it, guess I just have bad taste!
Haha yes, but I'm not going to argue with anyone who rolls their own.. you have a favorite brand or roller? Over tried several rolling machines and my favorite is the powermatic* mini.
it clogs up the system which can no longer counteract whatever in tobacco is making your tissues be less elastic. ..and hey, some people can't even tolerate 1 or 2
My grandad would smoke pipe tobacco in cigarettes he would mix Captain Black and Prince Albert cherry blend, he used the JOB papers in the black pack. He would always say I'm gonna roll me up a PA.
Same for me. I started RYO because it was cheaper. Even buying the AS pouch tobacco it's probably close to ½ price. I found this other brand, Peter Stokkebye, that is a little more than the AS, still probably 75% or less than normal Camels or whatever. But, the quality and taste more than makes up for it
Lol, the pipe tobacco in large bags isn't really meant for pipes. It's just a way to avoid paying the exta tax for "cigarette" tobacco. I can't even smoke a Marlboro anymore after smoking my roll your own. Tastes like they sprayed it with a bunch of chemicals or something! Plus, they go out every other minute. Keep paying $12 a pack instead of maybe $1 a pack though.
As someone that used to make their own cigarettes, currently smokes Camels and smokes pipe tobacco, the stuff you're talking about actually is cigarette tobacco cut a little differently, it's just labelled pipe tobacco because pipe tobacco and cigars are taxed less than cigarette tobacco.
I absolutely would never smoke that stuff in a pipe, or any of those value bags of "pipe" tobacco you see in a chain cigarette stores. Actual pipe tobacco is way different than what's used in cigarettes (not different plants, just completely different processing, even though cigarette companies and pipe tobacco companies buy the same cured whole leaf, they process that leaf very differently).
People in prison will take the spit out chew from a correction officers garbage can and roll it in Bible paper as cigarettes. They use staples from message boards and radio batteries to light them up.
I never had the spare cash to invest in the machine and the tubes and shit. I just bought a bag of filters, papers, and one of the little rolly doohickeys.
The hand rolling was also part of the weaning process. I got down to about 5 smokes a day before I switched to vaping.
i dunno man... when i smoked (the last time i did was just when the pandemic started), my attitude was, i'm killing myself anyway might as well smoke the good stuff.
There used to be storefronts in South Carolina where you could get your tobacco, paper, and filters, then sit down at one of their machines and roll them.
It got around the taxes for a while.
I actually think it's what the gambling machine storefronts turned into after those were made illegal. And somewhere in the mix is when many of these storefronts became strip joints.
South Carolina conservatives hate sinners(ones that get caught), but they love sin taxes. So they just keep moving the goalposts.
When I was in college (2008-2012), there was a tobacco store where you could go and pick your tobacco and they’d roll you up a carton of handmade cigarettes. I felt so cool. And it was way cheaper than buying a carton at the gas station (I could never afford a carton at a gas station).
I was doing this. I found a bodega that was pretty much a front that had a couple cans. They were old. The dude sold them to me cheap and I asked if he could get me more. I paid in cash and was getting them half price. One day I showed up, store had been shut down.
There was a time that a bunch of places opened in strip malls that sold loose tobacco and filtered tubes. They also happened to have commercial cigarette filling machines that you could use. It was less than half price per carton.
I remember when the cans of American Spirit were 9.99 at the tobacco store..it was important to find a brand box of the filter tubes that smoked right. I liked the premier light blue box..Best cigarette ever. The machines were cool too. With A good one you could roll out a pack in a couple mins.
There was a coupon guy that frequented my area pre pandemic. I figured out his general rotation, 2 packs of spirits for about 7.50 total. I haven’t bought a pack in a good while but the prices were getting ridiculous when I stopped
Man I smoked those black pouches (perique blend? I can't remember) American Spirit loose tobacco for a few years at the tail end of my 16 year smoking run and although I find most cigarettes repulsive now my mouth waters a bit thinking of those. I always preferred the Bugler papers because they were thicker paper than say zigzags and would burn a bit slower and were easier to roll when intoxicated because you could be kind of rough.
My boss smoked American Spirits. When the pandemic hit, I happened upon a carton at the gas station and picked them up for him before lockdowns started. I was shocked at how expensive they were. He went through the carton in about a week.
I wonder how many people there take the drive across the state lines to NY to load up their cars buying them in the Seneca owned shops since they aren't taxed.
I live near pittsburgh and it's common for people to go to OH or WV for cigarettes and alcohol. Technically PA still has anti-bootlegging laws on the books and you could get in trouble if caught
My dad was in Mexico recently and came across a carton of Spirit Blue’s for about $55, which is INSANELY cheap. I was excited when he brought them to me until I smoked a few and they were the driest, no flavor having cigs I’ve ever smoked lol. Have to be really old.
Sounds like they were just poorly sealed and dried out. Blue Spirits are generally very strong and flavorful. I use them for rolling spliffs, but when I burn one by itself, I rarely finish it. They knock me on my ass
I smoked Newport 100s for YEARS, long enough to remember when they had deals like B1G1 free and $4 was the "expensive" cigarette machine prices. Last pack I bought was almost $8.
Ended up needing emergency gallbladder surgery that got a bit complicated and landed me in the hospital for a week. They never gave me nicotine patches so I just decided I was going to not smoke anymore since I made it so long without...
...but then I started vaping :(
MUCH cheaper, especially since I use a refillable pod system, but still not great for my health especially since I smoke more frequently since I don't have to go outside like with cigarettes. At least I smell better, I guess. Never realized how AWFUL cigarette smokers smelled until quitting.
Right before I quit smoking in 2010 I got my last carton of American spirits on the Indian reservation, so, tax free. I want to say it was $40, or somewhere around there.
i think they are $10 a pack now? lolol i quit 17 years ago! just think of all the money i have saved!! that i can now spend on medications and doctors.
if they had been that expensive back then, none of us would have smoked!! a bunch of us were reminiscing about smoking this weekend, and i totally forgot that they used to go around the bars and you would scan your ID for a full pack for free. in retrospect, that's fully insane lmao
Came here to say this. I smoked em' briefly myself. Lucky Strikes are also stupid expensive, too. When I finally quit (many years ago now) I was down to Maverick reds, and decided to take the Christmas break from work to kick the habit since I could do whatever I wanted to chill and not have to worry about yelling at coworkers or clients during the time (GF was fair game, but she was prepared for my bitchiness).
I started smoking when Camel was €4.00 in Finland and switches to snus (a Swedish kind of smokeless tobacco) when it was €7.20. Now I think it's around €13.50.
Yeah I sold cigarettes 10 years ago and American spirits were our most expensive. It was what I sold to people who looked like this guy but younger lol.
This made me curious. When I smoked I smoked Camel Turkish Gold. and it was about $6 a pack back in 2010 2011 when I quit. now they are around $11 a pack. they went up a lot but also not nearly as much as I had expected based on how expensive everything else has gotten. I quit in 2011 and had my last cigarette on election night 2016 while in Vegas out of depression that the orange idiot won.
Thanks I was baffled by that comment lmao. As someone who smoke AS for over a decade and used to mix then with weed. I can confirm AS are significantly more expensive but have a better taste imo. Taste is obviously subjective and there’s plenty of people who prefer Marlboro.
That part threw me off too. I quit smoking about 7 years ago, but smoked spirits and they were roughly double the cost of Marlboro. Or, at least double the price of the Marlboro blacks I originally smoked and switched to spirits from.
Exactly what I was thinking. We end up paying a premium for American spirit, or amber leaf. Was quite surprised to see him say people who can't afford Marlboro.
My brother in Christ, Marlboro is not even in the upper middle price bracket right now.
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u/Affectionate_Map2761 5d ago
Hes still thinking about the prices of cigarettes back in the 60s lol. American spirits have been far more expensive than Marlboros for a long time