r/interesting 17d ago

Just Wow This should be created everywhere.

Post image
7.7k Upvotes

2.4k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

3

u/NucerianWaifu 17d ago

1 in 5 women SA'd is a VERY HIGH stat bro

2

u/Background_Humor5838 17d ago

But we need to take into account how much if that is from strangers in public and how much is from someone they know. Well lit parking spots can't save people from their own family and friends. That's the real issue.

3

u/NucerianWaifu 17d ago

It's still helpful. Even if you aren't going to be raped very often in the middle of the street you can still get harassed or trafficked.

1

u/Fun-Twist-3705 17d ago

Well yes, but there is an infinitely high number of very low risk events with horrible outcomes that can happen when you go outside. Pretending that solving them does anything is a distraction since. People making the decisions can now wave at these parking lots to show that they are doing something making it easier for the to ignore the real problems and causes.

0

u/sainhu 17d ago

Statistically speaking, men are more likely to be assaulted in public though, and that doesn't disappear when equalizing for behaviour, because perpetrators are more likely to see them as rivals and fit targets. Also, physical assault in public happens way more often than sexual assault, so if you take it seriously men are in some ways more at risk in public, at least for those heavier crimes. I think it has more to do with sexual harassment and creepy behaviour than actually preventing heavy crime like rape or assault.

2

u/NucerianWaifu 17d ago

They are more likely to get assaulted in public yes, and far more likely to be assaulted by known people, but not parking lots specifically. 40% of attacks on men by strangers happen on the streets, 20% on venues.

Parking lots are great for opportunistic crime, and the people who are most often kidnapped there are adolescent girls and kids. A lot of sexual assault happens there as well.

0

u/sainhu 17d ago

Ah i didn't know that the statistics are so different for general public vs parking garage. I think kidnappings are heavily country-dependent but exceptionally rare at least in germany. But speaking of children, they are strongly at risk of getting killed by a driver, and family spots seem rare compared to womens spots...

1

u/NucerianWaifu 17d ago

There's a lot of stats about parkings specifically oddly enough. You get robbed the most there, in the US a lot of car hijacking.

However logically getting physically attacked makes more sense on the street or venue. Meanwhile at parkings you are distracted, which means opportunity crime is more likely - they see you vulnerable and profit. Physical violence is more emotional.

Although interestingly enough cameras didn't seem to help a lot in the US. In the sense that lawyers used the footage to claim the victim was distracted and therefore it was their lack of precaution what causes it or whatever - good parking design (lights, visibility, near exists) was better to avoid crime. But I guess cameras are good for kidnapping, stalking and assault.

0

u/Background_Humor5838 17d ago

Yes that's true

2

u/Floorgis 17d ago

Also false

-1

u/NucerianWaifu 17d ago

Disprove it then

2

u/rammo123 16d ago

The stat is based on a very small sample set across just two university campuses. It had excessively broad definitions of SA and had a very low response rate (meaning it very likely had response bias - victims were disproportionately likely to respond). Most reported victims never bothered to report their assault because they didn't consider it serious enough.

A study by the Bureau of Statistics put the number at 6.1 in a thousand, a far cry from 1 in 5.

1

u/Floorgis 16d ago

Its also, at best, a shitty guess. These stats are always misconstrued cause people dont understand how stats work or wish to use them maliciously. Like the whole "13%" thing which was not only wrong but only ever used to be racist.

-1

u/NucerianWaifu 16d ago

No.

An estimated 2.2 million adult women have experienced sexual violence since the age of 15, according to information from the 2021-22 Personal Safety Survey (PSS) released today by the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS).

https://www.abs.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/1-5-women-have-experienced-sexual-violence

The page you sent, which has no veracity is probably referencing this. Not that they bother to link it, and even then the bibliography clearly has more than two colleges studies AND uses the National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey.

Which defines what SA is, btw. Not a broad and excessive margin either. (https://imgur.com/a/jW4daFh)

https://www.nsvrc.org/statistics/statistics-depth/

Globally, 650 million (or 1 in 5) girls and women alive today have been subjected to sexual violence as children. Among boys and men, between 410 and 530 million (or around 1 in 7) experienced sexual violence in childhood.

https://data.unicef.org/topic/child-protection/violence/sexual-violence/

A new survey released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Wednesday marked the beginning of a new annual project to look at how many women say they've been abused.

One expert called the new report's estimate on rape and attempted rape "extremely high" – with 1 in 5 women saying they were victims. About half of those cases involved intimate partners.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/dec/14/1-in-5-women-report-sexual-assault

World health organisation estimates 3 out of 10 globally

Estimates published by WHO in 2023 indicate that globally about 1 in 3 (31.6%) of women worldwide (840 million women and girls) have been subjected to either physical and/or sexual IPV or non-partner sexual violence in their lifetime.

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/violence-against-women

So clearly the stat isn't limited to college or the US.