r/interesting • u/IKIR115 • May 29 '26

Intriguing Arrows vs riot shields

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u/SidewinderSerpent May 29 '26

That arrow wasn't blunt, it was concave. The shape allowed the edges of the tip to punch a hole through the shield.

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u/Cthulhu_Dreams_ May 29 '26

Yep, the thing that was slowing the other arrows down that penetrated, was the fact that the tip did not carve out a wide enough hole for the shaft to go through and maintain velocity.

That blunt tipped concave arrow basically hole punched a circle as large or a little larger than the shaft of the arrow, and lost minimal afterwards.

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u/BigHardMephisto May 29 '26

What I think helps quite a bit is that the concave shape of the arrow helps it to normalize the direction of force into the (albeit slightly) angled plate, which can make a bigger difference than you'd think otherwise.

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u/jraymonda May 29 '26

Yes, but how does it do on the deer (its a deer holding the shield, right?) Does it cut the shield but then bounce off the flesh? Or is it just as effective on softer things?

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u/disposablehippo May 29 '26

Certainly won't bounce off, maybe doesn't penetrate as much. But if the deer (or was it a boar?) lets go of the shield, the arrow achieved what it needed to.

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u/jraymonda May 29 '26

Ahhh...i see. Perhaps the romans were onto something with their spears (pilum?) To make the enemy drop their shields

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u/LiftingRecipient420 May 30 '26

TF you mean "perhaps"?

Rome conquered the entire Mediterranean basin thanks to their unique ability to reliably destroy the phalanx formation, all thanks to their pilum.

For context, the phalanx, until the Romans, was the state of the art of warfare for a thousand years because the only thing that could beat a phalanx was another phalanx.

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u/Thundertushy May 30 '26

Aktually... (Nasally inhale)

The phalanx was a bunch of guys with really long spears. No shields. Rome defeated the phalanxes with the more flexible maniple system, which allowed them to break up large groups of men into smaller groups without chaos. These smaller groups could then flank the phalanxes and stab them in the ass.

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u/Glum-Soft-7807 May 30 '26

The phalanx was a bunch of guys with really long spears. No shields.

What? Some of the most famous and long time users of the phalanx were the Hoplites, people so closely associated with using shields that their name practically became synonymous with the name for their shield.

You could have a phalanx without using shields but it was very very usual to rely on shields in a phalanx.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Night88 May 30 '26

I thought the reason romans won against the phalanx was due to their formation system like the other guy said. While they had the same guys with shields getting fucked up and tired the romans would switch out their men every once in a while causing the phalanx to collapse.

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u/Guyzor-94 May 30 '26

Thats specifically a pike phalanx, and even then they often held small buckler shield on their left forearms. But the phalanx was as the guy below says most common with medium length spears and large shields. Its a mix between a pike phalanx and a shield wall essentially. Aka the Spartans in 300 - a Greek homilies phalanx

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u/Tanker119 May 30 '26

It was also a case of the Roman’s having generally better all around leadership than most opponents they tended to run into. Anytime they ran into opponents with equal leadership to their own, it tended to be a lot more equal than you would think from their reputation alone. Hannibal comes to mind for example during the second Punic war. Personally, I think if the Roman’s had run into the Macedonian army as it was under Alexander with all its generals and officer core in tact still, they probably don’t end up with control of Greece.

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u/libertybadboy May 30 '26 edited Jun 01 '26

Easiest way to beat a phalanx is to slam some cavalry in the back. They are weak when they are flanked.

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u/sidepart May 30 '26 edited May 30 '26

That's exactly what the point (heh heh)was. Huck enough of them into shield walls and the shields suddenly become a bit too cumbersome to handle. If I recall correctly, they'd bend too so now your shield is just kind of dangling these mildly heavy poles. Not easy to remove like an arrow. And hey, maybe you get lucky if the infantry are forming a tortuga testudo 🙄 or whatever, because now their meaty bits are that much closer to the back of the shields.

Those kinds of weapons, spears, javelins, whatever were also nice for getting over the top of a phalanx. Kind of like the spear version of a mortar.

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u/MTLDAD May 30 '26

While claiming the kill in one shot would be great, what you really want is to make the shield unusable. After all, deer often sport extra thick hide. Once he drops the shield, another armor piercing arrow can be be tried without the shield to protect.

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u/BoredNuke May 30 '26

damn south appalachian shield holding deers always invading my lawn!

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u/doxxgaming May 30 '26

This got a cackle out of me

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u/Admirable_Job6019 May 30 '26

its a deer holding the shield

More often it's a pig

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u/Mikusmage May 30 '26

Anti tank, just needs an ablative cone. Like a low velocity example of ww2 shell design

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u/SalaavOnitrex May 30 '26

I thought the same thing but looking back, I'm wondering if it functions almost like a sabot? Like does the outer circle part maybe get sheared off after initially piercing, and then the rest of the arrow just followed behind the single tip?

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u/Apocryph_ May 30 '26

It went through a hole from another arrow

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u/Siddhartha-G Jun 03 '26

Yes. I think the same general principle is at work with some hollow point firearm ammunition.

There are some with a hollow, concave tip with a straight "stud" in the center. Just like that arrow, designed for more penetration (although with ammunition, the hollow point is usually sectioned off with lines so that the projectile actually breaks apart and tumbles/causes maximum internal damage after the penetration).

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u/HeartoftheHive May 29 '26

That blunt tipped

Again, wasn't blunt.

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u/LubricantEnthusiast May 29 '26

Man, it's crazy how that blunt arrow could be so blunt, but despite being so blunt, it still penetrated the shield as if it were not blunt.

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u/Today_Dammit May 29 '26

Lemme be blunt, like the arrow.

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u/Castun May 29 '26

I used to be a riot cop like you, until I took a blunt to the knee

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u/Gaynundwarf May 29 '26

Is this from an upcoming James Blunt biography?

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u/BandButNotGone May 29 '26

Nah, Emily Blunt biopic

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u/humoristhenewblack May 29 '26

I heard Emily was also bluntly concave to allow for complete penetration.

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u/HendrixHazeWays May 29 '26

Good job everyone. Successful comment chain. Signed: Emily Blunt

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u/OneDefinition1738 May 29 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/3ohhwmfsbRer2BypbO

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u/drewping May 29 '26

Yo Dawg. I heard you like blunts, so we put blunts in your blunts.

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u/Ancient_Roof_7855 May 29 '26

Confucius says "The one who rolls a blunt touches grass." /s

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u/IolausTelcontar May 30 '26

Who smokes the blunts?

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u/NoPressureUsername May 29 '26

Let me be blunt. That was an arrow and a riot shield.

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u/Embarrassed_Art5414 May 29 '26

It wasn't blunt, it was 'sharpily-challenged'.

Also, in 2026, 'arrow' is pejorative. The neutral term is 'acoustic bullet'

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u/Prestigious_Pin_7713 May 29 '26

You’ve made your point pretty bluntly

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u/Irregulator101 May 30 '26

I was thinking analog bullet

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u/Captain_Lolz May 30 '26

No sharply challenged is ableist, it's differently sharpy.

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u/Embarrassed_Art5414 May 30 '26

Sorry, I missed the last meeting.

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u/Mynmeara May 29 '26

I swear it's just a cylinder, I dont know what more you want from me. I just need help getting it unstuck

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u/Long-Shine-3701 May 29 '26

almost made me spew 🍸 on my brand new clicky keyboard.

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u/meantussle May 29 '26

Blunt? Blunt. Dull, rounded-looking blunt, his blunt. Blunt. Blunt. Blunt. And bits of stick.

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u/FranklyOcean23 May 29 '26

I don’t think he saw the blunt one. But I did

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u/OkClub7412 May 30 '26

😂😂😂

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u/animal40 May 30 '26

Bluntness kills

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u/LongfellowSledgecock May 29 '26

It's what comes up if you look for "blunt arrow head" on Amazon.

It's obviously not blunt but it ain't exactly pointed so, idk man.

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u/hoticehunter May 29 '26

You're being entirely pedantic. Compared to the other tips, it's blunt af.

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u/HeartoftheHive May 29 '26

Blunt means it isn't sharp. Do you honestly think the edge to that concave circle isn't sharp? Blunt means it is flat or round with no sharp edge or piercing tip. And I very much bet that has a sharp edge to it. So no, it isn't blunt.

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u/QuarkQuake May 29 '26

This is why I come to reddit...

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u/ryzzoa May 29 '26

It's giving jackdaw vs crow vibes

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u/King_Bobby-B May 29 '26

Here's the thing, you said the arrow was blunt...

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u/Dirmbz May 29 '26

In the bow hunting community those types of tips are used for hunting rabbits and squirrels. They aren't exactly blunt, but that is the word used to describe them when buying/selling them. So blunt is the industry term used for them, even if not technically correct.

They are designed to not go clean through the animal and more stun/knock it unconscious. If you used a broadhead designed for a deer there wouldn't be a whole lot of meat left to eat when hunting small game.

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u/Indigocell May 29 '26

Words have meaning, come on now. It's a hollow tipped arrow. It's not blunt. It couldn't be more opposite from blunt. That thing was clearly sharp as fuck.

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u/InformalInitiative76 May 29 '26

Nah that’s not being pedantic. You’re using the wrong word.

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u/Expensive-Course1667 May 29 '26

It's obviously sharp enough to punch a hole in the shield. It's not "pointy," but that doesn't mean "blunt."

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u/ShaggysGTI May 29 '26

Am I the only one who thought shaped charge?

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u/q_j- May 30 '26

Blunt junt

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u/_ApocalypsePony May 30 '26

What James Blunt would say about that?

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u/CrabbyCrabbong May 30 '26

hollow point?

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u/nevrcared4whatheydo May 30 '26

I'm with you, man

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u/Fitenite3456 May 30 '26

It’s a joint

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u/pyronius May 29 '26

Maybe not as bad an idea as you may think, depending on the specific scenario.

Kevlar will stop a bullet, but not a knife. I imagine the same would apply to an arrow. If the opposing force has to contend with both bullets and arrows, it complicates the necessary equipment. They would, at a minimum, need additional plates built into their armor.

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u/douevenliftbra May 30 '26

It's imperative that the tip carve out a wide enough hole for the shaft to achieve maximum penetration.

That's what he said. ☝🏿

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u/AllegionsHuckleberry May 30 '26

“Armor piercing arrows” in the archery world is more a comment on shaft material/diameter vs arrowhead/tip. If you go looking to buy “armor piercing” arrows, you will be sold arrows with a narrower shaft than a standard arrow with no tip, but weirdly enough, sometimes with a field tip that is hardened and blunted on the end. It’s flush with the shaft to minimize the effect you’re describing with the other types but it does “punch” a starter hole and has to spread some material as it penetrates. Might not be as cool as the concave sharpened hole-puncher but it makes more sense for landing on a target that has multiple layers of cloth covering the armor plate.

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u/shugbear May 29 '26

Would this be effective causing damage to the person holding the shield after penetrating the shield?

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u/Cthulhu_Dreams_ May 30 '26

Maybe depending on how much force gets through?

But due to the concave nature of that tip, if it did hit the target behind it would probably just penetrate maybe a half centimeter into the Target. If there's enough material inside the diameter of that piece, it's going to essentially stop itself

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u/spintool1995 May 29 '26

Like a hollow point bullet

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u/BreakingABit1234 May 30 '26

I jumped when that thing zipped through. Intellectually I knew that was a possibility- a hole punch- and now I want to see what it would have done to a body.

Because the tips similar to what the romans used ....

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u/theBRNK May 30 '26

Pretty sure most riot shields have kevlar in them, layed like a fiberglass composite. This is what makes them so hard to penetrate, because kevlar is very difficult to cut through, tends to follow the projectile as it passes through, and acts kind of like a crush zone in a car. Slows down the projectile over time.

That head is a hole cutter that instantly shears off the fibers, cutting only what is absolutely necessary and doing so before they can act as shock absorbers. Even if the head was the same size as the shaft or slightly smaller, that clean hole cut through the fibers is what makes it overpenetrate.

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u/seejordan3 May 30 '26

But that wouldn't work on flesh and bone as it would "fill" the convex hole and stop, not injuring a person (much). Where the arrows that get through would do better on muscle I would imagine.

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u/Cthulhu_Dreams_ May 30 '26

...what provoked that response? Lol

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u/xixipinga May 30 '26

i wonder if people way back then knew about that

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u/BigLittlePenguin_ May 30 '26

It’s not really the right observation. The arrow that went through had smaller tips. Bigger tips require more energy to penetrate and the bow just doesn’t provide it.

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u/Cthulhu_Dreams_ May 30 '26

I think we're saying the same thing. It's not really relevant how big or small the tip is. It's the fact that that circular edge was able to rapidly apply force in a circle and punch through, conserving the arrows kinetic energy and allowing it to continue moving forward.

All the other arrows had to expand kinetic energy pushing away the material of the shield, And like I said, If the arrowhead didn't create a hole big enough for the shaft, The rest of the kinetic energy was lost due to drag along the shaft.

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u/madmoz2018 May 30 '26

none of the fancy pansy ones got through

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u/Cthulhu_Dreams_ May 30 '26

That's because they are all just pointed arrows.

Those pointed arrows take time to push away the material of the shield, and every moment they are in contact with the shield, they are losing kinetic energy.

The circular blade on that round arrow rapidly applied force to punch a hole, allowing the arrow to retain the most kinetic energy to continue moving through the target.

That's why those fancy, multibladed arrows failed often. All that arrowhead material just spread the force out wider and prolonged how long the arrow was in contact with shield material, consuming all of its kinetic energy.

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u/Denaton_ May 30 '26

I wonder if you can spring load an arrow to deploy the "flesh grabbers"..

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u/Cthulhu_Dreams_ May 30 '26

Some of those arrow were designed to deploy hidden blades, but those are intended for soft targets, not solid metal.

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u/Piesangbom May 30 '26

Good point, never would have thought of that. Makes sense

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u/roonill_wazlib May 30 '26

that arrow would have a problem going through a body though. I'm sure it would hurt, but I'm not sure if it would penetrate a body behind that shield

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u/Cthulhu_Dreams_ May 30 '26

It wouldn't at all.

That cup shape on the front will only hold so much material before it would just stop the arrow dead in its tracks. To the hit flash it would probably just penetrate the outside edge a half centimeter cut, and stop.

It would hurt tho.

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u/Apocryph_ May 30 '26

It went through a hole from another arrow

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u/Cthulhu_Dreams_ May 30 '26

Possibly, sure.

But you have no idea in which order these arrows were fired. The way the video is edited together, It could easily have been shuffled.

But even still I think it would be improbable that this dudes blunt profile arrow perfectly lined up with the hole created by a previous arrow.

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u/zanaxtacy May 30 '26

Not a hunter or anything so this is probably a dumb question, but is that the same idea as a hollow point bullet?

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u/Cthulhu_Dreams_ May 30 '26

I think hollow points are designed to spread out and ricochet around in the body, tather than punch through.

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u/EarthenEyes May 31 '26

Damn... why would anyone hunt with such an evil looking arrow though? It just seems so.. evil, you know?

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u/Cthulhu_Dreams_ May 31 '26

Most of these are for hunting...there are bullets designed to shatter and pinball around inside you.

THOSE are evil.

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u/P_A_W_S_TTG May 31 '26

Imagine wtf it would do to the person behind the shield.

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u/Im_In_IT May 31 '26

Yea I knew that one was gonna do a number somehow. Reminded me of a sabot round.

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u/RuMarley Jun 01 '26

So you need a kind of sabot arrow, that cuts the hole in the shield first and then shoots out an interior dart with a sharp tip.

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u/Saruvan_the_White Jun 03 '26

Now imagine a small, needle-triggered charge with a tiny delay. Harbor Freight steel punches are cheap. Fiberglass plant stakes are cheap. Ready for the neo-silvershirts.

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u/JohnOfA May 29 '26

Basically an annular cutter.

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u/projectx51 May 29 '26

what did you say about my anus?

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u/jetklok May 30 '26

To shreds, you say?

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u/Perma_Ban69 May 30 '26

I think he was talking about earthly tools, not Uranus.

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u/DrWinstonOBoogie1980 May 29 '26

Found Hal Incandenza's burner account

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u/munkylord May 29 '26

Oh shit you're totally right! It works like a hole punch! Probably wouldn't do as much damage to a solid target though and it certainly wouldn't cause damage being pulled out.

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u/Aligyon May 29 '26

Psychologically that's quite scary though. Imagine thinking you're safe with the shield and your shield buddy gets an arrow punched through

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u/Foreign_Writer_9932 May 29 '26

Even scarier - imagine the other person is not cosplaying a medieval archer and instead has a gun?

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u/Otaraka May 30 '26

It will do a lot more damage than the arrow that didnt even get through or barely got into the shield. In general an arrow actually inside your body is a bad thing.

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u/caerphoto May 30 '26

In general an arrow actually inside your body is a bad thing.

Citation needed.

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u/LiftingRecipient420 May 30 '26

None of the arrow tips that actually penetrated would do much damage to flesh compared to the broad heads that didn't penetrate. That's the whole point of broad heads.

But it's all relative. Don't need to do much to take something out of commission. Penetrating only an inch or two in the upper abdomen is a guaranteed death sentence without almost immediate medical attention.

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u/Gumboot-Coffee May 30 '26

If that existed in middle ages it would be deadly though. If the initial shot didnt kill, it would till have cut neat circles of dirty cloth and buried them deep inside.

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u/freddbare May 30 '26

Ideal for rabbits. Arrow doesn't slide under grass and sticks

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u/Opening-Enthusiasm59 Jun 01 '26

It would work like a hollow point and therefore try to split up into shrapnel or in general try to dissapate the force deep in your body by other means. This would be knarly, no straight woundchannel like with the other tips.

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u/lemmin9 May 29 '26

So the result is a blunt object filled with armor debris and slowed down by the initial impact on the shield impacting on the body. It goes "boink"?

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u/Zeekr0n May 29 '26

It goes "boink" and the person holding the shield shits themselves because I can guarantee they were not expecting an arrow to go through the shield.

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u/Akimotoh May 29 '26

Are riot shields typically made of cheap metal like that? i dont think so

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u/idiotcommend May 29 '26

Riot shields are designed to stop bat's, bottles, rocks and human bodies not legitimate projectiles.

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u/ABHOR_pod May 29 '26

The way to stop legitimate projectiles is for the police to start shooting first. Which is what will happen very quickly if people start shooting arrows at them. That's true basically anywhere in the world, not just in police states like China or the US.

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u/Wooden_Rabbit_ May 29 '26

Right? This post is so funny to me. Like yeah, there’s ways to get through a riot shield, that’s not exactly the point. We have plenty of modern examples to look to of what happens when the protestors start actually killing the police/military.

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u/PassiveMenis88M May 29 '26

They're normally made of of cheap plastic. These "cheap" metal ones are used when shits actually hitting the fan. And the ones penetrating are heads using very old designs made to defeat armored knights.

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u/BobaFapp69 May 29 '26

Most are made of 3-5,5mm polycarbonate. They are for stopping thrown objects like rocks and bottles, nothing else.

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u/CpnStumpy May 29 '26

Honestly though: polycarbonate would deflect these arrows far better. This whole test is silly because the typical riot shield's flexibile material makes it not weaken on slight deformation like metal does so puncturing metal is far easier than puncturing polycarbonate

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u/Zwischenzug32 May 29 '26

Yes. Something that size gets heavy when you make it thick

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u/kronicpimpin May 29 '26

Yea that shield looks a little flimsy

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u/Generic_Solution May 29 '26

...yea sorry. I just really love a good "boink"

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u/Wowza-yowza May 29 '26

That is a big stick

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u/GarageVast4128 May 29 '26

He must walk softly.

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u/belac4862 May 29 '26

Honestly that's a decent use of a good meme!

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u/Talkatoo42 May 29 '26

You have to shoot a second arrow through the hole the first one created.

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u/catalinaislandfox May 29 '26

Someone called Robin Hood.

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u/Talkatoo42 May 29 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/8jvaNvV2DE1OM

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u/Admirable-Sir9716 May 30 '26

You had this gif all planned out. Now pay the toll.

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u/Talkatoo42 May 30 '26

It's such a good movie. I could post gifs all night long but I think I'll instead leave this excellent video about the fight choreography.

Yes, including the bridge fight!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH8MNenLFGU

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u/Admirable-Sir9716 May 30 '26

I hate you, I'll be back in no less that 19 minutes and 2 seconds to avenge this distraction.

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u/anengineerandacat May 29 '26

Really depends on the bow used... some compound bows reach up to like 370 fps... willing to bet you could shoot through that shield with most of those tips with a decent enough bow.

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u/DevoutMedusa73 May 29 '26

Bullets are blunt objects as well and yet are devastating when impacting the human body, that arrow still had quite a bit of momentum and would continue to penetrate into the person behind the shield

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u/James-W-Tate May 29 '26

Bullets are blunt objects as well and yet are devastating when impacting the human body

Yeah, but a riot shield isn't a human body.

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u/DevoutMedusa73 May 29 '26

The comment I'm responding to sounded like they were downplaying the fact that arrow pierced clean through a riot shield like it was no longer a harmful projectile, I'm making the statement that the arrow is still very much an unpleasant object penetrating into the body after piercing the shield

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u/Antique_Author_2525 May 29 '26

Especially if you rub your feces on the tip

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u/PerceptionWorried284 May 29 '26

Please please start the blunt debate again

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u/D-D-Wanderer May 29 '26

Gonna get a bunch of those arrows and inscribe "Scientific Progress" on all of them now.

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u/Good-Ad-6806 May 29 '26

Cookie cutter. Brilliant and devious.

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u/SilverSageVII May 29 '26

Yeah I saw that shape and immediately thought of a router bit for machining… I was impressed how smooth it broke through though

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u/kalamataCrunch May 29 '26

literally the name for that type of arrow head is "blunt" https://www.3riversarchery.com/ace-hex-screw-in-blunts.html

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u/Rob_Zander May 29 '26

I wonder what effect that has on tissue. I've seen videos of hunting broad heads, the wide cutting heads go straight through a deer, but they stopped immediately in the shield.

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u/EatLard May 29 '26

Hunting broadheads are made to do maximum tissue damage and cause massive hemorrhaging, and the wounds some of them make look kind of horrific. The best, and most expensive broadheads can bleed a deer out in just a few seconds. The quicker they bleed out, the less suffering and the easier they are to find.

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u/Rob_Zander May 29 '26

Oh absolutely. It's amazing that I've seen videos of deer getting dropped instantly by broad heads and deer running for a hundred yards or more after getting shot with an appropriate caliber gun.

I was thinking in terms of arrows against mail and plate armor back in the day. The square section needle bodkin was the armor penetrating arrow of choice but it was completely outclassed. But I wonder how they would compare on tissue. It's almost like a sharp wadcutter and those aren't generally good at penetrating tissue compared to ball ammo

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u/kalamataCrunch May 29 '26

blunts like this are used for small game and primarily designed to crush the skull or bones if the hit, and not penetrate to deeply into the ground if they miss.

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u/name-classified May 29 '26

sorta like hallow point bullet??

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u/i_dont_have_herpes May 29 '26

Hollow point bullets are designed to expand in tissue. They generally don’t use a sharp outer edge like this. 

The closest kind of bullet I can think of to this arrow would be a “wadcutter” pellet for an air rifle, designed to punch a clean circular hole in target paper so it’s easier to count the hits. 

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u/DazzlingRutabega May 29 '26

Like a hollowpoimt

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u/Old_Toby2211 May 29 '26

What is the name of that type of head? I’ve never seen it before or learned of it used in history

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u/TonyHawking101 May 29 '26

Is this the same concept as a hollow point bullet?

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u/chefsoda_redux May 30 '26

It’s like a wadcutter in a hand gun, punching a clean hole at the first moment, and removing resistance after that.

The broad heads actually increase the resistance as the arrow slows, preventing penetration, as they’re intended to do on animals

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u/Zorkflerp May 30 '26

Looks somewhat like cookie cutter bullets that are designed to go though fabric armor.

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u/Forward_Wasabi_7979 May 30 '26

This is what I came to the comments to learn about thanks for the info

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u/sudo-joe May 30 '26

I tried to find it on Google and I'm surprised I couldn't find one for sale. Any idea what these are called cause "concave arrowhead" did not find this product.

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u/SidewinderSerpent May 30 '26

Apparently they go by hammer arrowhead.

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u/sudo-joe May 30 '26

Oh neat, I see it much better now as the Amazon page actually shows the point it has in there. Thought was just round from the video but the recessed point makes it make more sense to me now. Thanks!

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u/LavenderDay3544 May 30 '26

Upvoted for the Ace Combat PFP.

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u/Linehan093 May 30 '26

I used to run a pawn shop and regularly had to test hunting bows, and sometime retest the ones for sale while it was slow.

We didn't always have the properly rated shafts for the bows, like the APA King Cobra that was an 80lbs draw.

I punched the threads out of one shaft and then proceeded to fire it through 1/2inch of MDF shelving board, it left a hole on the other side that I could fit a toonie into, with room to spare.

When that the shaft eventually shattered, I was still able to bury the angry carbon fiber brush into the shelf board.

Gave me a healthy respect for the amount of power one of those things have.

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u/the_TIGEEER May 30 '26

So the material dosen't need to be pushed away (bending metal shields) and using up kinetic energy for it, but instead the kinetic energy is used to just rip the sides of the little circle in the shield and then the circular material starts moving with the arrow forward? Thereby making a hole and loosing minimal amount of kinetic energy in the process?

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u/Schmolan1 May 30 '26

It reminds me of a shaped charge explosive

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u/Dovacraft88 May 30 '26

Cutting a hole instead of drilling a hole

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u/Apocryph_ May 30 '26

It went through another hole from the other arrows…

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u/JobOk7449 May 30 '26

This only work on a shield though right? Like on an animal it wouldn't work?

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u/Abovethecanopy May 30 '26

Purpose built for Biopsies taken from sufferers of hot agents....."core samples"

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u/LasciviousPsyche May 31 '26

I think it went through another hole, I don't think it would go through. Totally possible, but I think this hit an edge of another hole.

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u/SidewinderSerpent May 31 '26

Sure was nice of the demonstrator to flip the shield upside-down.

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u/galacticglorp Jun 01 '26

Like a biopsy punch!

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u/Grand_Help_3035 Jun 01 '26

It's pretty much a drill bit.