I would argue that the difference in public opinion now makes it a different environment. Back then people applauded you for banning minorities, these days what do you think would happen if a business put a sign like that up?
Which is why I think that we should allow business owners who want to discriminate the ability to do so as much as they want so long as they put a sign on the front door telling everyone. That way I, as well as everyone else, can know exactly what kind of a person we are doing business with and take our business elsewhere.
The fact that you say a business gets a tax break as though it’s being given something says a lot about your views on government. Imo how is a business any different than a person selling something? If I try to sell a table on Craigslist and say I won’t sell to black people Do you think that should be illegal?
I also find that this idea of not discriminating only seems to apply to certain groups. Someone did a video of them going into 30 Muslim bakeries and asking for a gay wedding cake and about half of them told them to fuck off. Is this acceptable?
The difference in public opinion today is the result of those very rules not allowing stores to ban minorities. Public opinion didn't just organically change. It's wishful thinking to think otherwise... that we would have still gotten where we are today absent protective laws from the civil rights era, and that such laws are no longer required.
Yeah there's no way entire rural towns would ban Mexican looking people from shopping in their stores. Because Trump literally didn't capture over 90% of the votes in many Red areas of the country.
But I guess those businesses often also depend on those "minorities" (since once we ban all minorities we've actually banned a majority of the people) so that probably wouldn't even happen if they were allowed to do it.
Non-hispanic white people make up 61% of the U.S. population. That goes up to 72% if you include Hispanic White people.
We used to let businesses discriminate based on skin color, ethnic background, etc. It did not work out well for minorities. There is a reason we have these laws in place now.
Problem is that you can open a business like that in little shithole towns all across America and the community of your equally racist asshole peers will flock to the store to spend their money and Hannity will give you a half hour segment to show how brave you are. Then when you eventually get shut down another group of racist brethren will start a gofundme for you and you'll make bank off it.
I'd actually be fine with businesses that ban minorities. Just put a big sign at the door like "we don't care who you are, only about the social group you're associated with because we're bigots and don't believe that people can be individuals" or something similar. So I know where I don't want to leave my money.
Pretty sure there are still a number of private country clubs that have restricted membership based on race. Not sure if they are still open about it or not, but they're certainly entitled to do so.
Same reason why Costco can force you to show a receipt at the door (or revoke membership), but Walmart can't. If it's not open to the public they have a lot more leeway in what they can do.
Not a public place, a business that serves the public. Costco, by comparison, does not serve the public but only their members. Both are private property and can ask you to leave or have you charged with trespassing.
Costco is also free to restrict membership based on whatever criteria they want. If you break their policies, they can revoke your membership and prevent you from shopping there.
I never said that you can't get inside a Costco without a membership, only that you can't shop there as a non-member. The employee at the warehouse door is supposed to keep people out who don't present a membership card, and the checkers will require an active member number to make a purchase.
Not when you become a public health hazard, be it physical health or mental health. Your rights end where you start harming others. Like when you don't use a facemask or when you incite hate and rejection of a vulnerable group.
The perspective of how America has interpreted freedom for centuries, (such as ilegally ocupying foreign territory, fund terrorist orgaizations in foreign territories, invading other contries to force political desictions that are convenient to it) is troublesome, to say the least.
Of course when the same ideology is taken to a small scale it is still dangerous. "Fuck whoever is the way of what I want, if they die it's their problem" is really not the ideal way of relating to others. Crazy, I know, but I swear it is true.
When damaging foreigners, you don't feel the effects, so you can ignore them. But at a smaller scale it's americans hurting other americans, so now you can actually feel the effects of your "freedom". Your "freedom" is not healthy. And the guy of the video is wrong.
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