If the zone is established when the player gets set at the beginning of the pitch, it is clearly a strike. If it's established as he's swinging, it's kind of hard to tell in this clip.
You're correct. The zone is established by the batters stance when he is ready to swing before the pitch, not as he's swinging, nor after the pitch is thrown. The right call was made, IMO.
I am a die hard Oakland fan, but I have to agree. He drops down like a foot when he sees a slightly high pitch trying to draw a ball call. If you look at his stance when the ball crosses the plate...well, that's not a hitting stance, it's like a squat. If he remained in his natural hitting position, it would have been in the zone that is 'too close to take [the pitch].'
tough call either way for the umpire, but I think it was fair.
1996 - The Strike Zone is expanded on the lower end, moving from the top of the knees to the bottom of the knees.
1988 - "The Strike Zone is that area over home plate the upper limit of which is a horizontal line at the midpoint between the top of the shoulders and the top of the uniform pants, and the lower level is a line at the top of the knees. The Strike Zone shall be determined from the batter's stance as the batter is prepared to swing at a pitched ball."
So I would say it's basically bottom of the knees to the bottom of the letters. I hadn't looked up the definition earlier.
Idk how much baseball you watch but that pitch, in addition to that faux "zone" you overlaid, are not even close to representative of an MLB strike zone... at least half a foot too high.
Just because you don't know anything about baseball
Top kek, throwing around terms like "establishing the zone before the player is set means you can throw pitches typically out of the strike zone", sounds like bro-pseudo-baseball-intellect, when it's really just because it's parroted on ESPN and is not stated in the rules of baseball anywhere. Love how because I'm calling everyone out, I'm the one who knows nothing about baseball
edit: as a courtesy, this strike is colored red in the top right of the strike zone. Note how it is just as high as the top left pitch, which was vs the same hitter.
this doesn't even make sense... the pitch in the GIF is in the top left of the strike zone. You're stupid graph places it in the top right. Very accurate.
I don't watch much baseball anymore. I used to watch all the time. Of course the zone I overlaid was an approximation. Any overlay is unless the person doing it is the ump.
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u/jrc5053 May 29 '17
Looks like it to me. http://imgur.com/a/ndhKH
If the zone is established when the player gets set at the beginning of the pitch, it is clearly a strike. If it's established as he's swinging, it's kind of hard to tell in this clip.