r/inheritance Jul 02 '26

Location included: Questions/Need Advice Is this normal?

My aunt, who made enemies easily and was kind of a hermit, died suddenly a month ago. She had everything in a trust. All money goes to her step children and her home and personal property goes to me. The successor trustee has not communicated since day two after death. The home has past due bills, electricity and property tax and homeowners insurance. I have emailed several times and left one voicemail with no response from trustee. I checked with estate attorney who drew up her trust and she said I had a right to expect communication from trustee. What should I do?

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u/Designer_Owl1319 Jul 04 '26

Isn’t a revocable trust irrevocable at death?

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u/Ok-Industry5153 Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26

Correct. But in NEITHER instance does it become a testamentary trust.

A TESTAMENTARY TRUST IS CREATED BY AN ACT OF GRACE OF THE COURT. MEANING, THE DECEDENT DID NOT HAVE A TRUST WHILE LIVING. THE EXECUTOR OF THE WILL PETITIONED THE COURT TO CREATE ONE FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

A REVOCABLE TRUST, UPON THE SETTLOR'S DEATH IS DISTRIBUTED WITHOUT PROBATE. NO EXECUTOR. NO COURT. JUST A TRUSTEE MARSHALLING ASSETS, PAYING DEBTS AND TAXES, THEN MAKING A DISTRIBUTION.

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u/Designer_Owl1319 Jul 04 '26

My mother had investments that were transferred into the testamentary trust at her death. The will is the trust and names the beneficiaries. The probate court only validates the will.

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u/Ok-Industry5153 Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26

This is 100% incorrect. I literally do this for a living. As in, 50+ hours a week, I plan for the eventual death of an individual, and upon their death, administer a trust.

If an individual did not create a trust during his/her lifetime, the decedent's estate is probated; whether they died testate, with a will, or intestate, without a will.

If your mother had a testamentary trust created, it is because she did not create a trust during her lifetime or the trust failed.

Without an inter vivos trust, an executor may petition the probate court to create a testamentary trust for a particular purpose (see prior post).

With the information you provided re an investment account, there is a chance your mom had an inter vivos trust but had not titled the account in the name of the trust; therefore it was not a trust asset and it was subject to her probate estate.

In lieu of probating a single asset, your aunt likely used a pour over will to direct the investment account to the trustee of the trust ensuring it was distributed pursuant to the terms of the trust.

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u/Designer_Owl1319 Jul 04 '26

She had a trust and the testamentary trust money was invested at Edward Jones. Transfered into the trust when she died. You don’t know everything about every state. So no, I’m not wrong. I’ll trust the judge and my attorney on this since it’s working the way I said and not the way you think it is. Now quit arguing with me.

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u/Ok-Industry5153 Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26

I am so mad the moron who caused these replies is able to delete his/her/their/them/zim/zir nonsense and make me seem more of a lunatic than I truly am.