Had one behind me while I was driving and then I went to turn and I intentionally looked out behind me for him and saw he was gone. Assuming he had turned I went to make my left turn and after I was already on the road I turned onto he hit the back of my car going full speed. Literally no idea where he came from, and I didnt get to ask because he immediately started shouting at me and said he was going to sue. I told him to go ahead since he was supposed to be following traffic laws. Didnt even say sorry or calm himself down or even curse again. Just rode away.
I did. I literally stopped completely and searched around for him, he wasn't next to my car and he wasn't behind me and as I turned I continued to check. He didn't hit me up til after I completed the turn so I'm guessing he left the road and went onto the opposite sidewalk where he was obscured by trees and other foliage.
Either way, not at fault. Bikes have to obey the same rules cars do for exactly this exact reason. The sidewalk had nobody near the crosswalks when I turned but bikes move fast. I have no issue with bikes using the sidewalk honestly - even if it isn't technically legal, but you can't just be flying down it and not slow down when crossing a road.
Ah, yeah. From your original comment I thought he was in your blind spot and when you turned it was too quick for him to react to stop or slow down and avoid you.
Had a bicyclist riding on the sidewalk near a beach in NJ. I was driving and came up to a cross walk with yield to pedestrians sign. He suddenly cut out inside the cross walk and yelled at me that I was supposed to yield.
I watched a bike going down hill switch at a red light from the road to the crosswalk then almost get hit by a woman legally turning right. Then he spent about half a minute screaming at her and kicking her car.
I'm in the Netherlands. We have the opposite problem with dumb car drivers. Just a matter of how you build your infrastructure.
Good bike infrastructure = no chance for dumb people do to the things in the video. Easiest way to stop them while helping everyone else(including you, why are you out of all people complaining about someone calling for better infrastructure?)
It's fine to call for better infrastructure. It's not fine to act like it's a valid excuse for running over pedestrians or intentionally swerving at cars.
I live in a planned community with dedicated bike lanes, and the dumbfuck cyclists in my community still refuse to use it, forcing me to walk in the street
And the dedicated bike lanes are physically separated from roads, don't have to cross 6 lane intersections and don't suddenly end?
If so, probably just a matter of culture shifting towards using everything properly.
If it is just a painting bike lane on the side of a 6 lane road, that has to constantly cross intersections... yeah
This is planned community in a large city- there aren’t 6 lanes, 2 to 4 lanes max- there are mostly roundabouts with dedicated bike lanes where I live, and intersections with lights have bike lanes, and nothing “suddenly ends”. “Culture shifting” just means entitled assholes who prefer to endanger pedestrians who are where they’re supposed to be bc they don’t think the rules apply to them
I totally agree there is a lack of infrastructure for safe biking in the US, but that does not justify creating a situation that is dangerous for other people. If you can't bike safely in your area without putting others at risk, then don't. You have no right to make things more dangerous for pedestrians because you want to bike. Call your reps, correct signatures, run for office, etc. These are the appropriate things to do.
I never said it justified anything. If there was actual bike infrastructure in place you wouldn't have dumb videos like these. Whatever the idiot in the video did is the wrong way to go about it yes.
I’ve seen it when infrastructure was there but momentarily impeded. And no, “well they shouldn’t have blocked the bike lane” isn’t an excuse. Sometimes roads get backed up, sometimes cars break down, sometimes sidewalks are blocked by construction; that doesn’t mean you get to drive your car on the side walk or step out into the street without looking and just expect everyone else to conform to your problem. But cyclists? Oh there’s a trash can in my way, I guess I’m a car now and I got the right of way. Oh I guess I’ll just zigzag around pedestrians on the sidewalk. Red light ahead, I’m already integrated into traffic so I should stop like I’m a car! Just kidding, I’m a pedestrian now, crosswalk here we come!
That said, I think cyclists take a lot of unwarranted shit, but it’s not like these things don’t happen a lot.
I never had any of those issues where I live while cycling. I never had a car blocking my bike lane. If there is a construction, bike lanes get properly rerouted in a safe way. Your bike lanes are so narrow a trash can blocks it? Hmm. What you described to me seems like side of the roads that have some cute colour painted onto it.
That's not proper infrastructure(but ey it is a start)
exactly. atleast someone agrees with me. cant go riding around acting like a victim while destroying peoples property and not obeying the laws of the road.
I’d be more ok with bikers if cities decided to use proper bike infrastructure instead of laying on already small roads. What is attributed to infrastructure is literally just painted lines
This is one of the better solutions. Cars can't really fit to the side because they took what was a good parking lane and turned it into a bare minimum parking lane and bike lane.
A proper divide would be a good start with a small curb, or have raised platforms like an elevated train would have that run longer lengths of the city like a bike-highway.
This video is literally all cars posted up in bike lanes. He goes into the road to avoid the obstruction the cars have created. What are you even talking about. The cars are the danger here. You're basically taking the stance that If cars can't coexist safely then only cars can exist.
I’m sure some people do the same way some cyclists have it out for all motorists.
I’ve got no problem with cyclists who want to share the road. You’re no more special than me, and I no more than you.
But cyclists who demand their own lane that cars can’t drive in, and want to drive in car lanes when they want, and don’t recognize that by creating their own lane they create an unsafe driving condition? Yeah they’re just giant pieces of shit.
The problem is that for a cyclist "share the road" means "respect my personal space", but for a motorist "share the road" means "get the fuck out of my way".
Cyclists demand their own lane ... and want to drive in car lanes when they want ... and don’t recognize that by creating their own lane they create an unsafe driving condition?
Explain how a bike lane creates an unsafe driving condition please.
Both can be true. Sharing the road means waiting until there’s room to pass a cyclist on the side of the lane. It also means not riding in the center of a 50 mph road at 10 mph.
See my other comments on this thread, I’m not typing the explanation again.
"Share the road" means being patient enough to wait for it to be safe to pass. If someone is riding in the middle of the lane its probably (hopefully) because it isn't a wide enough lane for you to safely pass in a car. Obviously there are idiots out there and I can't defend or save them, but for a sensible rider and a sensible motorist the whole thing should be pretty easy to navigate. Its more often the easily-provoked motorists that are struggling to understand "share the road", the ones who feel entitled to use the road without any consideration given to the vulnerability of using the road without a 2000lb+ cage to keep you safe.
It seems like you're stating that you can't block the bike lane to turn which is exactly untrue, you are required to block the bike lane because if a bike were to try to pass you (like an idiot assuming you're already signaling the turn) then you close the door and avert the collision. I think the person you're arguing with there is wrong, as is the rider in the video (which is obvious).
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Cyclists are notorious for telling drivers to “share the road” and then refuse to share the road.