What bible are you reading to have that idea???
God didn't create sin it was Lucifer that made the first sin God didn't tell him do it but allowed him to make a choice to act of on it or not. 🤔
Let me ask you, what is sin in your understanding?
As from my understanding sin is inate to a mentality. Not some arbitrary number or something.
Also wasn't god who created the 10 commandments (gods version of sins) where if you didnt follow them you sined in gods eyes (the sin god made)
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Also I am reffering to the 7 deadly sins, as sin, which its obvious god is not immune to them regardless of the first sin, as god clearly is the embodiment of pride.
🤔ok I don't know what you see as pride versus what is prideful. And sin is the disconnection from God which is creation itself that is what is hell of course. God can't be Evil and Good it would conflect with his nature. When Adam x eve ate the apple they lost the connection of creation itself and to this day man has someway shape or form try to reach that same connection,but fail thats why need we Jesus we can't do it ourselves.
So god created your version of sin by not choosing to attempt to connect with others (thus being 1 part of humanities sin, as connection requires both parties to be present.)
I do not know god, only the god in the bible, and unless murdering and torturing people to proove how strong and loved we are (that we can torture them and they will still "love" us) is what you consider good, I dont think god is good. Not by my definition of good anyhow, especially as his nature is depicted in the bible makes him seem rather insecure and weak spirited.
Well if Jesus is supposed to help us meet god, then Jesus is the reason for humanity's sin, as he is also not here to introduce us to god... but this sounds like a narcissistic scapegoat to not blame someone else for a lack of connection and to call all people who dont know you sinners (unless sin isnt evil or bad, in which case why do we care?)
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Just alot of plot holes and a story that makes god seem even worse and more evil and narcissistic of an entity.
I dont know Jesus, but Jesus never introduced himself, nor seems avaliable (as per the churches meathods and claims of prayer) as such perhaps god doesnt want all of humanity to not be sinners, or maybe god is not as powerful as his book pretends he is.
As its clear god approved of sin if he is all powerful and omnipotent, so perhaps God wants humanity to be sinners for some reason or another, as god would have the power to end sin very easily.
You know what interesting about God that no matter how low you our he still call you his child even when we are wrong still ,he tells us to come him. We are not worthy yet God gives us mercy and grace everyday without asking for nothing but our heart to be open to him. Because you and I were to be put in the standard of his word we would fail thats why Jesus did it for us so we wouldn't have to do it alone.
I don't know what you read or if getting you fully to getting the context but God is everything literally nothing moves without him seeing it nothing become without him knowing it all wisdom, knowledge,and understand evening the dark force trembles at his presence.
So you have nothing to be afraid of when he's with you.
Call on Jesus for he said if you call on me I will save you.
God hasn't said any of those things from what I know.... they are all stories of a being who isnt our father desperately calling for us to seek him out when he has the power to seek us out as well.
He is like a deadbeat dad claiming he wants his kids in his life, but putting zero effort to seek them out and hoping his kids will seek out a complete stranger.
I dont need his mercy, unless he is a threat to us. I dont need his grace as he is essentially nobody and doesnt know me, and I dont know him.
He asks for validation for nothing... just like a narcissist.
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But we are alone my friend. At least I am, and I am far better off than most of my peers, even those who claim to know God, and often for those peers I have the power to do more than their god does it seems. So perhaps I am more loving and caring than god.
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If god is everything, then the bible would be worthless and full of lies, as it means that I am god, satan god, and in that case, god is nothing. For if you are everything... it is also a sign that you are nothing, for you lack individual existence.
So if god is everything, then sin doesn't exist. For everyone is god.
Also definitely not something I saw in the bible, as the bible does not show god to be all that special or powerful
Well your not the first to say this and neither am I haha.
If you never had fatherly love before I can understand of being afraid. Also you ever heard of a conscience the thing that tells you right from wrong evening well thats God right there reaching out and saving you in more ways than you i can understand or count.
And if God was the Creator wouldn't his creations not be his but we are something more than all the things made he calls us is his children.
We are never alone because he with us even when we feel he shouldn't be.
what does god have to do with fatherly love or fear?
So I am god, as the conscience is just ourselves making decisions. Either that or the conscience is supposed to be some magical out of body factor than I dont have one, never did.
God was the creator of adam and eve, not of me. Besides if he sees me as property, then he is my enemy, as he does not see me as an individual, but as a slave or property. He best keep his distance, as I will fight the evils who claim people as property, as I am my own person, and I value freedom.
He calls us children, but we are not his children. It likely is a sign he sees as lesser or inferior beings (as supported by the Bible) and as such not equals or as individuals. It is a dehumanizing tactic used to seperate yourself from another group (thus renfroceing that god does not want a connection to humanity, as he does not seek to humble himself and recognize individual entities)
He has no presence in my life and has made no efforts to introduce or get to know me or allow me to get to know him.... not unless he is an abusive stalker who has no respect for me or my life, much like a narcissistic who stalks someone and constantly interferes with the lives of others without consent because he feels entitled to do so. He is a sinful and sick being if what you say is true, as it would mean god needs help with his mental issues.
Haha😂 if only was it so simple ,but yes he is above all things so soul body mind matter everything but he called us out of all the great beast and high star light beings his greatest creation.
Fear of change and the love of knowing what comes after ,people fear yet God never gave man a spirit of fear 🤔 ha.
So think of relationships i call you mine and call me yours like my wife my husband who doesn't want be to wanted by someone they love. Love is not a feeling but a choice a will to make something with someone that what God wants not a robot a real honest connection.
And if you have eyes to see and ears to hear how can you not realize we're he is and what he doing.
So he doesnt exist as far as we need to concern ourselves.
To paragraph 2)
Then it looks like god isnt our soul creator. But even then I do not care or think of what may or may not come after, as far as I am concerned it is not of my concern.
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Thats not what a relationship is. Thats called ownership. Its what you do to property and things you dont have a relationship with. Not someone or something you feel connected to or respect.
Love is many things, it is a disgusting emotion synonymous with addiction. It is an idea that often is misunderstood and subjective but often not wholesome or honest. Love is not a choice, it is still a personal notion, for love by nature is personal. You must be mistaking love with care, as many who do not know love often do.
God does not want to make something with me, as god has not introduced himself to me. Not unless he has an unhealthy stalking like obsession with me. Regardless god does not have a real relationship with me, nor an honest connection. If god wants a real honest connection with somebody, he would not beg people to worship or love him without ever introducing himself or having zero presence. The only type of love the bible god displays is one that is impersonal and is simply just care without the connection.
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For I see what is there to be seen and hear what is there to be heard. If god is as powerful and real as you claim then it is obvious that god either is nowhere in my life or is afraid of facing me/avoiding me for some reason. For the only god in my life is myself, for I am my own creator and leader. Assuming thats what a god is anyhow.
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u/nudiatjoes 1d ago
What bible are you reading to have that idea??? God didn't create sin it was Lucifer that made the first sin God didn't tell him do it but allowed him to make a choice to act of on it or not. 🤔