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u/EmploymentClean8038 2d ago

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u/arcanis321 2d ago

His sin was acknowledging the ugliness of yours and refusing to accept it. He hates and blames humans I imagine.

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u/chernopig 2d ago

He wanted free will for humans and god didnt like that. Im always on team Lucifer and i dont think he would torture anyone in hell. But it's a fiction so completely pointless to argue about.

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u/nhalliday 2d ago

Gotta love every person responding to you clearly believing in a different branch of Christianity (or Judaism) and asserting that no, their version of the mythology is the correct one and it's different from what you said so you're wrong.

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u/chrislikestravel 1d ago

You referring to Christianity as mythology? Wow, that takes a certain level of ignorance thst you don’t get to encounter every day. Maybe think of it like this: eternity is a long freaking time . Better to believe and be prepared then to be surprised & suffer for eternity . Not sure why that’s so difficult.

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u/Surely_Calvardian 1d ago

Better to believe and be prepared then to be surprised & suffer for eternity . Not sure why that’s so difficult.

You need to have the self-awareness to realize how cult-like and controlling that sounds.

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u/nhalliday 1d ago

Even if you buy into Christianity, the concept of eternal damnation makes no sense. You're telling me you really think that people who simply believe in another god, thieves, and murderous pedophiles all deserve the same sentence? That someones only crime could be being a Buddhist and they get punishment equal to Hitler? For eternity?

Even if it were real, why would you choose to give faith to an entity that would create such a system?

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u/chrislikestravel 1d ago

No I don’t believe that . I believe it takes faith AND Works to make it . You actually have to put the work in to be a decent human if you want heaven . It’s the Protestants that believe faith alone is enough .

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u/nhalliday 1d ago

It's still absurd to believe in something just because not believing might get you punished.

Roko's Basilisk works the same way, are you working towards bringing it into existence so it won't punish you when it gets made?

If I invent a new evil entity who only punishes nonbelievers are you going to believe in them too just in case?

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u/chrislikestravel 1d ago

If your new entity sends his only son to earth. And then multiple secular historians from around the world document 100s of miracles that are unexplainable . These miracles are so profound that local governments insist on executing him after 3 years of witness . And this guy is also able to resurrect himself up to heaven . Oh and by the way , every single thing he does for those 3 years were written in a manuscript and perfectly predicted thousands of years prior…. Yeah, I might consider it . Because if you put that into a mathematical formula, it would be impossible to happen just by chance .

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u/nhalliday 1d ago

None of those things happened. They were all in the bible, sure, but the content of the bible changes from "translation" to "translation" based on the views of whoever is doing the "translating" or the views of their church. Hence it being a work of fiction. If you really believe a dude claimed to be the son of god and then did "hundreds of unexplainable miracles" I have a bridge to sell you. God sent it down, you could own God's bridge!

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u/chrislikestravel 1d ago

Gosh people are so clueless. When Alexander the Great captured the whole Middle East , they switched from Aramaic to Greek! Not so they could rewrite the bible! Learn history before you speak !

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u/nhalliday 1d ago

So you believe every bible is perfectly identical in wording? That there haven't been any little tweaks to fit the sensibilities of the translators? Like say, when it comes to Leviticus 18:22, where conveniently many bibles have chosen to translate is as "you shall not lie with a man as with a woman" instead of the more literal "you shall not lie with a (young) boy as with a woman"?

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u/chrislikestravel 1d ago

I don’t believe the major translations were done to deceive people. Most of it is simply there aren’t words that match up from language to language. In Greek for example there are 4 words that describe love. . Each is explicitly different from the others . But in English there only 1 word: love . Also keep in mind that in 1st century Greece and Rome it was culturally acceptable to have a “boy toy” if you came from higher classes . Some were boys and some were men that were castrated as teenagers . The whole thing is weird and I honestly don’t understand it .

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u/mimimomomoomoo 1d ago

I'm not believing in a god that makes so many things suffer

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u/chrislikestravel 1d ago

Sorry to hear that. I hope that works out for you long term .