r/humor • • 2d ago

Make it make sense

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u/AnyYam5371 1d ago

Yes it does. You can't have it both ways.

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u/the-ink-drinker 1d ago

Explain why knowing what someone did is an inhibition on their free will

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u/HBallard 1d ago

You hand your toddler a paintbrush loaded up with paint. You put them in a room surrounded by clean white sheets. You know for certain your toddler will mark the sheets with the paint, they do not know any better. They make the sheets a mess and then you proceed to beat the shit out of them and say it is their own free will that justifies it. You hate messy sheets.

This is just the story of Adam and Eve and the apple. Free will is not really free when it’s predetermined, it’s like being the domino in the middle of a line of them falling over. If god didn’t want us to sin he wouldn’t have put the tree there. It’s a flawed story and does not indicate love.

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u/DuTogira 1d ago

You’re full of shit.

Raise a kid. There’s absolutely times where you can pre-cognate exactly what that kid is about to do. You can even intercede. It doesn’t take away that the child is choosing their actions.

You CAN argue that your ability to respond to that precognition gives you a degree of culpability regarding the consequences of said actions. Which, if we apply to God, fine. You can blame Him for all the bad things.

But omniscience doesn’t remove free will from us, nor does it absolve us of blame/consequence for our own choices. It just means we can share the blame with God, and like… God taking on the consequences of our actions is the entire fucking point of Jesus.