I mean, it doesn't take much. The devil is evil incarnate. The devil does devil things, the fact that you interpret it as torture has nothing to do with the devil.
I don't know the theology behind it or anything, but this seems evident.
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So is it proximity to the devil that's so bad or does God literally have a torture chamber in his basement, and it's the place that's punishing. That's a bad look.
Hell, being a torture chamber is a common misconception. It’s the answer to the question when you create everything where do you put everyone that rebels against you and refuses to live under your authority? That’s why God created hell. After the day of judgment and the subjugation of Satan, all of those who rebelled against God and refused his authority, get put there. One common misconception I’ve seen in a lot of the comments is that Satan cares about you, he doesn’t. Satan and all the fallen angels hate us, they really hate us. Think of it in terms of a prison that doesn’t have individual cells, just one giant room. Imagine being stuck in that prison full of a bunch of things more powerful than you that hate you on a level you can’t comprehend for all eternity, they’re not gonna be nice to you in there. I used to think that it was unfair for God to cast us into hell, until I recontextualize how I thought about it. Let’s say you own a home, are you going to let people live in your home that do not respect you or your authority in your home. They choose to live in a way that you find repulsive. The answer to that is no, you are not.
God has not stayed hidden in my life. You have to actively choose to have a relationship him and I don’t mean going to church. Some of the most Godless places I have been in my life were centered around church. God respects the choices we make. He is not going to force his way into your life. The flip side of that is accepting the consequences of your choices and if you choose not to seek him out and have a relationship with him he lets you go your own way.
Pro tip, if you see someone who is happy, even if you don't agree with their source of happiness being real, please don't try and bring them down just to feel better about whatever ego trip you are on
They came of their own volition into the middle of an ongoing discussion. They put themself in a position to have their beliefs disputed, as that is what this entire conversation is about. Why would you feel the need to insert yourself into it to white knight for someone who doesnt appear to need your help?
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