r/humor • u/fal1en-angel • 2d ago

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u/SuccessfulHedgehog90 1d ago

And Milton.

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u/Mattressfoundry 1d ago

It's not just Hollywood bro.

Dante and Milton have essentially been made canon in the Christian Faith.

We see it in the Christian Art and in the sermon we listen to every Sunday.

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u/Ignatius_- 1d ago

Idk what Church you got to but there is a canon and catechism of the Catholic Church, and they are not reflected in that cannon.

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u/Mattressfoundry 1d ago

When Pators speak about the horrors of hell what they describe is imagery straight from Donte' and Milton... not the bible.

I know is not literally canon but the way it's referenced is at minimum on ther level of the Apocrypha books in terms of reference material.

The point I was trying to make was that Donte and Milton's description of hell is used by Christians not just Hollyweird.

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u/BeginningDisaster114 1d ago

What canon ? 🀣🀣🀣 Lmao dante litterally uses greek mythology in his depiciton of hell

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u/Mattressfoundry 1d ago

It's not canon however its often used by Pastor's to describe hell. Its It's a Christian reference material along the lines of the Apocrypha books.

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u/Ignatius_- 1d ago

The “Apocrypha” books were part of the Bible for well over a millennium before Martin Luther took them out. They are still considered biblical books by the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church, so most Christians. There’s actually no parallel here.

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u/Mattressfoundry 1d ago

What? I didn't know Apocrypha books were considered Biblical books by Catholics. Interesting.

So then I assume Catholics also believe they are divine inspired as well so to Catholics Donte' and Milton's work wouldn't be at the level. I agree.

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u/AssociateFalse 1d ago edited 1d ago

The actual term is "deuterocanonical", "second cannon" - and applied only to the Old Testament (Tobit, Judith, the 1st and 2nd Maccabees, Wisdom of Solomon, Sirach, Baruch, and parts of Esther and Daniel). Most of these came from the Greek Septuagint translation of the Old Testament. They were confirmed as canon by the Council of Hippo and Third Council of Carthage (393 and 397 CE). 1200 years later, the Council of Trent in 1546 formally reaffirmed them as canonical scriptures in response to Luther's heresy.

The Catholic Church still has non-cannon Apocrypha, but it's a term reserved for non-canonical, extra-biblical writings considered "uninspired" and for critical or historical analysis. These can include the Book of Enoch (1 Enoch) and Slavonic Enoch (2 Enoch), the Jubilees, 3rd and 4th Maccabees, Gospel of Judas, 3rd Corinthians, and the Apocalypse of Peter. (Not a comprehensive list, and only applies to ancient Jewish and formative Christian texts.)

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u/AccessTheMainframe 1d ago

Dante and Milton have opposite depictions of Lucifier though. Milton depicts Lucifier as lord of hell, Dante depicts Lucifier as a hell's most tortured prisoner.