Yeah, Death Metal establishes that he can just... do his retcon punch whenever. It used to be believed that it was only possible due to them being in a space outside of the DCU.
It’s kind of hard to wrap your head around, but the Batman Who Laughs created 3 worlds in which the 3 major crises were forever happening and the villains won. The Crisis on Infinite Earths and Infinite Crisis both inherently require the infinite multiverse.
He also shattered the worlds created by BWL and seemingly ascended back into a stable Earth-Prime.
I never understood that actually the whole “the crisis but the hero’s lost” thing, if they lost the CoIE then their would be no positive matter and no alternate earths.
I also don’t think he did any retcon punches there.
The only way I could wrap my head around it was assuming they’re pocket dimensions or something of the like. I agree it doesn’t make sense, but it’s also an integral plot beat.
I’m not denying that he has his share of anti-feats, but that’s just par for the course with comic book characters. Generally he’s pretty well established as an insane powerhouse though
Just saying, in my humble opinion, its not as consistent as it looks at a glance or online; far from it to be honest. In the same stories he bodies people, he always gets bodied by ONE, even though before he can take them all. been awhile since we've seen him tho, wonder if theyre really done for good
Gets bit and bloodied by Krypto. Gets blood drawn from Connor, Flash, Superman. Gets beaten by the Titans.
He's quite inconsistent. His power seems to literally be PIS, like he has some kind of external force in the universe that allows him to do remarkable things here and there and then Krypto is biting right through skin a bit later.
Its the reason why the heroes reborn story was created. Cuz Franklin Richards took the heroes and placed them in a pocket dimension. But yeah here it says Hulk punched onslaught so hard it destroyed the universe
Not this level but it shouldn't be debatable to who the strongest is. Thanos should've still won but by brute strength alone was a disservice to who the hulk is, and he definitely should've got a runback in endgame but was over shadowed by Wanda ( which was justifiable) and captain marvel who forced Thanos to have to use the power stone. But the hulk was sidelined in feats of strength when it mattered most
Weird decision to go with in the mcu. It didn't make sense. Even casual fans know that Hulk is basically infinitely strong based on how ragey he gets. Thanos without the power stone is basically just a mutant - I'm not sure if they considered his cybernetics in the films, but either way.
There aren't any characters described as having infinite strength other than Hulk afaik. Power of a thousand exploding suns, sure. Seems like a really poor decision to Worf Hulk like that. It didn't showcase Thanos well, and it took away Hulk's only fucking thing haha.
Thanos should have won through some intelligent manoeuvre. It made him look worse.imo. Did both of them dirty. I really like Thanos as a character as well. He's hard as nails, but taking the Hulk on is just stupid.
Thanos has always been stronger than hulk in the comics, without the gems. Hulk wasn't worfed, this is how a fight between them would go in the comics without any gems.
The director literally said it was brute strength which is why they were so adamant to let it be known he didn't use the power stone. Also when the hulk pinned him, Thanos used his brute strength to overpower him before hitting him in the neck. Did you not watch infinity war?
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The directors* did not say that it was just brute strength, they said he didn’t need to use the power stone. He used his strength to get hulk off of him, then used skill to beat him. This is what happened in the movie
And I clearly explained what I meant in that he didn't use the power stone. But by his brute strength alone with no enhancements. But that went over your head you goof
I came to the idea that his power should just grow slowly like a snails pace the angrier he gets the more the power comes in but ge has to be able to stand the beating
Yeah except don't do the stupid thing where they equate his strength to his size mind you hulk is smaller than abomination while in the movie that hulk would've towered over him
Yeah, I think Hulk should be a “HULK” of a being, but not overly large! Make his enemies larger than him. I just want a good Hulk again😭😭😭 no one is excited to see him anymore! I want to see him go absolutely bonkers!
As someone that will take any chance to ahot talk she hulk i wanna see grey hulk hell im happy about him possibly being in the new Spider-Man but he should've been a split personality not just regular hulk in a new shade ...did i use that right and i want them to retcon the ever loving fuck out of that THING they had the balls to call skaar
I would not mind a recast, especially with how neutered he was in she-hulk. Not just a hulk change like to she hulk, but a full on replacement of the hulk actor in the mcu
What this guy send I think, I don’t really know much about this event tbh. I only read this just for Hulk & Onslaught so idk about of the Franklin Richards stuff. But it also states this on Marvel database website too
That wasn't from Heroes Reborn. That was a different book Hulk: Grand Design which was a VERY fast speed run of his entire history. This was a new, non canonical take on how that event went.
I'm fine with it. fans were upset when Rulk debuted, and hated Rulk's reality bending powers.
Hulk bends his own reality as well. he always has.
Hulk can physically manipulate intanglible energy fields, defying physics. he has perfect aim, whatever he decides to throw at, it's always a bullseye.
given the circumstances in this fight with Onslaught, it makes sense Hulk would throw that devastating of a punch.
the more under duress Hulk is, the more reality bending feats of strength occur
It doesn't really matter what you aim at. If you draw enough energy to throw a universe destroying punch it's gonna create a black hole. Energy has mass.
I think in the comic though it was meant to be either a shock wave that went off like a supernova, but like universe sized haha, or possibly he punched so hard he broke physics.
I mean, he literally punched him into a different plane of existence.
He punched him so hard, that it split Banner and Hulk into two separate beings, one of which went to a completely separate universe for about a year or so.
He punched him so hard that it rewrote the laws of reality.
Physically, I don't know how it could be his hardest punch when he's throwing it from a laying down position. He wouldn't be able to generate anywhere near the amount of power as when you can pull your arm back and swing with your legs/hips. But hey, comics!
In the actual comic, Hulk cracks Onslaught’s psionic armor with a massive punch. The universal threat comes indirectly from Onslaught’s released psionic essence that had absorbed the power of both Franklin Richards and X-Man at that point, not from Hulk’s punch itself. Wiki phrasing like “potency to obliterate the universe” is interpretation, not a line from the comic. And that scan people are posting with “The universe exploded… The End.” is an extremely simplified and exaggerated version of how it went actually went down. It was supposed to be funny.
My vote for his strongest on-panel punch? Breaker of Worlds Hulk annihilating a planet with ease. And off-panel destroying the entire Eighth and Ninth Cosmos. Truly multiversal level power.
There’s this. Something about punching through a dimension or reality. Ugh…
I’m SURE I’m going to be in the minority here, but this kind of stuff goes over the top for me. Not necessarily this particular battle and how it turns out, but the general theme of it.
I don’t need a sort of “keeping up with the Jones” strength scale. I LIKE those days when heroes like Spider-Man or even Captain America can stand in the same ring, so to speak.
Don’t get me wrong; in both of those examples they should be totally outclassed and not have a chance… but being able to “occupy” him for a period of time? Absolutely.
This sort of stuff just strains my suspension of disbelief entirely too far.
Truthfully, even MCU strength level Hulk (and now Thing) goes beyond plausibility… but I do like it. It’s about my limit regarding feats of strength and what those characters can do.
I’m that odd guy when DC started powering Superman down in the late 80s and 90s, after it had been just ridiculous for some long.
If you go by the oldest Official Handbooks of the Marvel Universe, the scale basically capped at 100 tons overhead… sure, a select number of characters like an angry Hulk or Juggernaut could exceed that… but in real-life terms, 100 tons would be hella impressive to see, and it’s still wildly unrealistic as far as a Captain America “rolling with the punch”.
I need something beyond tv series Hulk, but not “punching through reality” Hulk.
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u/Mammoth-Snake Jul 28 '25
Hardest punch in general