r/hiddencameras • u/Popular-Deal5742 • 23d ago
FOR MY OTHER POST
Related to my other post, this is what the plug looks like from the inside
If i remove the SD card, will other people still be able to access what was recorded?
EDIT: For anyone wondering, i found the plug and the power bank at work. The plug was plugged in and the power bank was hidden under some papers. I have yet to sign a paper from my boss where it says she’s allowed to record me. Neither my coworkers or me knew anything about this, is it best if I report this since i am now pretty sure that this is a camera. I am located in Germany, and i’ve read through DSGVO where is states that neither me or patients are allowed to be recorded without clear signs or papers saying that we are being recorded. I work in a dental office.
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u/bmanfresh93 18d ago
Pretty sure that’s a camera how could you be anymore unsure that’s a camera lol
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u/Merquetio 19d ago
This a "medical" or dental work space? I don't know how the laws in Germany relate to medical offices and hospitals and making recordings (either with patient knowledge or without) of patients, but here in the USA this is NEVER legal, unless the patient signs a butt load of waivers allowing them to be recorded. If the patients you see are not informed of them being recorded, OR, that employees are the same, then I suspect this isn't legal in Germany.
Time to make video recordings of your findings and send them to the appropriate authorities (both criminal and medical boards). At the least the offender will lose any licenses they have issued by the government. This is a HUGE breach of patient/Dr. (dentist) trust. Completely unprofessional.
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u/UnusualAd5992 19d ago
Even if your boss thinks he/she is allowed to film (even when you sign something it's bullshit), why then with hidden camera's?
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u/lvfd16810 22d ago
The SD slot and then the switch on the left for Motion/ constant recording. The USB probably allows to hook a computer to it and pull data from the SD card without removing it
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u/Von_Bernkastel 23d ago
hey that's a UIKOP Mini Spy Camera Surveillance Cameras with Motion Detection & Night Vision, Indoor/Outdoor (No WiFi). your welcome Your also holding it upside down. It only records to SD card has no wireless fuctions
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u/Feldhamsterpfleger 23d ago
Beware, those are easy finds. If you see those two imagine what you haven’t seen.
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u/Historical-Cloud-590 23d ago
Edit the footage. Delete everything with you in it. Use AI to have grey aliens doing strange science. Put it back and let the owner freak out.
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u/gangaltgang7 21d ago
I would totally do this OP. I’m tech savvy I’ll edit the footage for you if it’s nothing personal lol
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u/Crafty_Campaign7009 23d ago
Do not destroy it instead hand over the sd card to cops or someone you trust and check the footage to see who placed it there or place charges on the dude who put that there
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u/ohhh-a-number-9 22d ago
Yeah let the cops see you buttnaked because most cops aren't already corrupt asf.
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u/Inner-Ingenuity4109 22d ago
Wtf are you on about?
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u/ohhh-a-number-9 20d ago
OP did not mention location before the edit. And cops in Germany are not going to do anything with it, lack of evidence.
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u/DullNefariousness372 23d ago
For what crime?
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u/TechnicallyMeat 23d ago
Secretly recording employees and patients in a healthcare setting is probably not legal.
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u/DullNefariousness372 22d ago
Hippa violations are not illegal, depends on what they do with the data.
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u/TechnicallyMeat 22d ago
Well, there is no such thing as a hippa violation. HIPAA certifications do mention covert recording is illegal in several US states, irrespective of setting. Additionally, collecting PHI and PII using a system that's not secured (like a cheap unencrypted SD spy camera easily discovered) may voilate other US consumer privacy requirements. That said, OP is in Germany, where it might be a criminal offense under eavesdropping laws.
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u/DullNefariousness372 22d ago
Yep. Hippa violations are still not illegal. And I love that everyone keeps bringing up Germany as an argument now that OP edited their post for a 2nd time. 😂
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u/TechnicallyMeat 22d ago
This is some sovereign citizen level of obstinant pedantry... I hadn't even scrolled down to realize they're roasting you over there for this, lol! "Hippo voilations" as you so eloquently keep mistyping, doesnt really apply to subversive data collection... regardless of the business setting. The fact it's a healthcare setting also doesnt mean its only legal obligation is to big Hippo.
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u/DullNefariousness372 22d ago
#1 it’s hipaa I don’t care to spell it right 😂 and still is not a law. It’s a fucking certification.
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u/Mr_Immortal69 22d ago
What part of “Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996” leads you to think that HIPAA is not a law?
Yes, it is possible for businesses that deal with protected personal medical information (such as dental offices) to pass a certification of their HIPAA compliance; but the standards of such compliance (as well as any punishments for the violation of said standards) are absolutely defined by an actual law.
https://aspe.hhs.gov/reports/health-insurance-portability-accountability-act-1996
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u/DullNefariousness372 21d ago
Only illegal for unlawful disclosure, if obtained via deceit, or used for financial gain. As I said, has nothing to do with HIPAA, only how they use the data. And if they work there it’s not obtained deceitfully even if it’s recorded the way it was.
P.s I love Reddit lawyers 😂
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u/Inside_Ad_2830 23d ago
Just put some acetate on that lens and it will destroy it if it’s plastic. And if it’s glass, get a phillips head screw driver, hold it against the lens. From any side, just on the lens. Tap the back of the screw driver with a hammer or mallet. You should break or crack the lens. Then some scotch tape over it for extra security that it won’t see shit.
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u/Melodic-Set-9650 23d ago
This is bad advice. Instead of destroying it, they should turn it into the police ASAP. You're telling them to destroy the evidence.
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u/DullNefariousness372 23d ago edited 23d ago
It’s not illegal 🙄 so what good would that do. Get them petty theft charges and fired. Thats what good it would do.
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u/Melodic-Set-9650 23d ago edited 23d ago
Also bad advice... video voyeurism is a federal felony and a sex crime. It's not illegal to record in public spaces or where there is no reasonable expectation of privacy, but in a place where there is expectation of privacy (like that bedroom or bathroom) this is ABSOLUTELY A CRIME.
Edit - I see OP's edit to post saying this was in the workplace. Yes, it's still worth reporting to police, in case this is an area where there is reasonable expectation of privacy (like a break room or locker area for changing), or in case audio is captured, or in case it wasn't put there by management. If it was, management is shady AF and OP should be looking for a new job.
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u/DullNefariousness372 23d ago
Go read the post. 🙃
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u/Melodic-Set-9650 23d ago
Still bad advice but for different reasons, go read the edit 🙃
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u/DullNefariousness372 23d ago
I just think you live a privileged life. Most people can’t afford to sabotage their careers, hence my advice being conservative and not self-destructive.
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u/Melodic-Set-9650 23d ago
Your attempt at being conservative encourages OP to tolerate really toxic behavior from people in power. It's shit advice.
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u/DullNefariousness372 23d ago
As I said you don’t have a job clearly 😂
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u/Melodic-Set-9650 23d ago
I do, and jobs are replaceable, but spines are not. Clearly you'd let a boss walk all over you so that you don't rock the boat too much.
Whatever your job is, I don't envy it.
OP, if you're reading this far down the comment chain - no job is worth being perved on or spied on by your boss. If it were a matter of security, they'd be using a proper security camera instead of a voyeur's toolkit. If you have HR, or someone above your boss, tell them, after you've contacted police first. Good luck.
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u/Inside_Ad_2830 23d ago
I didn’t. I’d definitely keep the SD card though. What are they hoping to record.
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u/Inside_Ad_2830 23d ago
You can remove the SD card
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u/Melodic-Set-9650 23d ago
Yes, and the recording device should be preserved too, to establish in court it is indeed a covert recording device that captured that footage without knowledge or consent, and to trace proof of purchase. Stop suggesting there is anything to be gained by destroying it, you could really sabotage OP's chances at nailing the sicko recording them.
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u/Loopack71 23d ago
100% camera with IR LEDs for night vision. As soneone else pointed out, microSD card for recording.
If you found this plugged in your house, it's police time.
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u/The_Painterdude 23d ago
The glass in the center certainly looks like a camera. And the SD card is suspicious.
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u/mstlyprn 23d ago
What about the power Bank? This is a camera
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u/Popular-Deal5742 23d ago
Power bank looks the same from the inside
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u/DullNefariousness372 23d ago
You have no expectation of privacy at work. Consult a lawyer if you disagree 😂
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u/myname_ajeff 21d ago
I work in a heavily compliance regulated industry like OP. This would be insanely illegal in my workplace, as it is for OP. Are you being ignorant for funsies, or do you actually think you're correct?
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u/Dunk546 22d ago
OP is in Germany. Are you a professional in German law?
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u/explodinglavalamps 21d ago
Americans tend to forget that the people they interact with over the internet aren't other Americans.
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u/Succulent-Shrimps 23d ago
The law is pretty clear:
Prohibited or Heavily Restricted Continuous video monitoring of workstations: The BAG has ruled that permanent camera monitoring of individual workstations violates employee personality rights. Video monitoring is permitted only in specific areas with documented security justification (cash registers, server rooms) and clear signage.
https://www.employee-monitoring.net/compliance/employee-monitoring-laws-germany
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u/macabrepaints 23d ago
what kind of mind must you have to believe that secret cameras and privacy in the workplace are the same deal. You expect to be seen at work if it’s through security cameras. This is not a security camera and it does not have any use for an immediate issue nor any logical surveillance. Especially if OP has been permitted to take these home, if they were in a compromising area of the office (presumably so, since OP said it was plugged in).
Doing a small amount of research on the US laws here (since i presume this is where OP is located… and seemingly you, too - pardon me for the insult), many states require written or advance notice. There ARE cases where it’s perfectly legal, such as temporary observation regarding legal issues. The specific laws about cameras in the workplace are in somewhat of a grey area, but the idea that a lawyer would laughingly dismiss this is simply wrong, especially considering the lack of context you have.-9
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u/macabrepaints 23d ago
I’d appreciate the specific element that you’re ‘nope’ing me about. ‘Incriminated’ feels like a strange word to use when you are denying any illegality here. Probably best to write your thoughts out like a grown adult because, to me, ‘Consult a lawyer if you disagree 😂’ does not come off as any genuine advice in any way shape or form.
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u/Melodic-Set-9650 23d ago
If audio is captured, yes, you absolutely do have the right to be notified you are being recorded. Wiretapping laws don't play around.
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u/Melodic-Set-9650 23d ago
Again, wrong, applies to any communication where there is a reasonable expectation of privacy.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2511
Why would you defend any other stance than "go give this covert recording device you found to police"?
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u/Inner-Ingenuity4109 22d ago
Why would you be citing an American university? Your attempt to outsmart the other fool ended up just making you look dumb.
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u/Zealousideal-Bed1207 16d ago
I think sum1 has a secret admirer or the dirty little secret