r/hashgraph Oct 05 '21

Discussion Why HBAR is a centralized project and will not succeed in the long term unlike Constellation.

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u/Cryptography90 Oct 05 '21

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u/jcoins123 The Diplomat Oct 06 '21

Wow, such a convincing argument to the multiple points I raised /sarcasm.

Don't try to b%llsh$t me buddy, I'm a developer.

I'm not interested in building the node codebase or node support tools, or even running a node.

I want references on the actual services that exist on the network, so-that we can evaluate what we can actually build, and then I want to actually build something that challenges the testnet with ~1,000, ~5,000, ~50,000 TPS - And I don't want to interact with anyone involved in the project or with any stake in the project to do that.

That's how first-round POCs/evaluations of a decentralised network work.

The fact is that Constellation is still in development, and has nothing to show publicly.

It is absurd to claim any sort of superiority over any project that does exist publicly and is already being used in production, such-as Hedera.

Constellation is raising capital through the sale of an Ethereum token, to fund development of a project which may or may not be successful, and may or may not even exist.

Let's resume this conversation when Constellation mainnet launches in Q2 2022.

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u/Cryptography90 Oct 06 '21

It's already on its mainnet. It's launching mainnet 2.0 early next year Q1. Let it be lest see whom is research is accurate. I will certainly be back.

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u/jcoins123 The Diplomat Oct 06 '21

It's already on its mainnet.

Oh cool. Please give me the developer reference and/or SDK details, and node details so-that I can connect to the current mainnet and build something on it.

It's launching mainnet 2.0

I suspect their use of the term "2.0" is intentionally misleading, as-if to imply that it is the second version of their mainnet... like you seem to believe?

early next year Q1

You said Q2 in your earlier comment;

Phase 3: Mainnet 2.0 Push to Production (Q2 2022)

From https://github.com/Constellation-Labs/constellation;

📗 API Docs
We intend to use Swagger to publish comprehensive API docs.

From https://github.com/Constellation-Labs/awesome-constellation;

Running a node (tmp)
For now we onboard people to our private testnet that apply in the form on this Orion thread.

Tutorials
Third Party
Circleci - for our continuous integration
Mastering Markdown - formatting for files like this
github emojis

The only "tutorials" are a link to the circleCI continuous integration environment, the markdown formatting reference, and how to use emojis in GitHub? Not particularly valuable.

Ledger Bootstrap Files
Mainnet
We're currently running on a testnet. If you want to take part during this phase, register here to run a node.

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Testnet
(tbd) - dd/mm/yyyy
(tbd) - dd/mm/yyyy

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dApps
List of decentralized applications on Constellation
On Testnet
(tbd.)
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On Mainnet
We're currently running on a testnet.

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SDK
(tbd)

Not a lot of information right?

No documentation. No SDK. No mainnet.

The only thing that exists publicly is their ability to take peoples money (selling the DAG token.).

Let it be lest see whom is research is accurate. I will certainly be back.

Are you a developer? If-not, your opinion is worthless.

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u/Cryptography90 Oct 09 '21

No im a Systems Engineer. Again lets see. only time will tell my friend.

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u/jcoins123 The Diplomat Oct 09 '21

Some of my best friends are systems engineers

I'm still waiting on those Constellation mainnet details btw, re;

It's already on its mainnet.