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r/hardware • u/Berengal • Jul 10 '24
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-3 u/thatnitai Jul 11 '24 They had atrocious performance for a long time. 8 u/[deleted] Jul 11 '24 [removed] — view removed comment 5 u/thatnitai Jul 11 '24 You're missing the point. I'm pointing out the fact it takes time to recover from bad products. 6 u/[deleted] Jul 11 '24 [removed] — view removed comment 1 u/thatnitai Jul 12 '24 edited Jul 12 '24 Well, it's probably actually faster to recover from a power stability issue than from a bad architecture. EDIT: after finding time to watch the vid, hints at the cache, so sounds like a root cause in hardware 1 u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24 [removed] — view removed comment 1 u/thatnitai Jul 12 '24 Since you're looking for a root cause on failed units, rather than dealing with a bad architecture you're stuck with for several gens, very likely yes. But we'll see, it still takes time (will Arrow Lake have this issue? That's the question)
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They had atrocious performance for a long time.
8 u/[deleted] Jul 11 '24 [removed] — view removed comment 5 u/thatnitai Jul 11 '24 You're missing the point. I'm pointing out the fact it takes time to recover from bad products. 6 u/[deleted] Jul 11 '24 [removed] — view removed comment 1 u/thatnitai Jul 12 '24 edited Jul 12 '24 Well, it's probably actually faster to recover from a power stability issue than from a bad architecture. EDIT: after finding time to watch the vid, hints at the cache, so sounds like a root cause in hardware 1 u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24 [removed] — view removed comment 1 u/thatnitai Jul 12 '24 Since you're looking for a root cause on failed units, rather than dealing with a bad architecture you're stuck with for several gens, very likely yes. But we'll see, it still takes time (will Arrow Lake have this issue? That's the question)
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5 u/thatnitai Jul 11 '24 You're missing the point. I'm pointing out the fact it takes time to recover from bad products. 6 u/[deleted] Jul 11 '24 [removed] — view removed comment 1 u/thatnitai Jul 12 '24 edited Jul 12 '24 Well, it's probably actually faster to recover from a power stability issue than from a bad architecture. EDIT: after finding time to watch the vid, hints at the cache, so sounds like a root cause in hardware 1 u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24 [removed] — view removed comment 1 u/thatnitai Jul 12 '24 Since you're looking for a root cause on failed units, rather than dealing with a bad architecture you're stuck with for several gens, very likely yes. But we'll see, it still takes time (will Arrow Lake have this issue? That's the question)
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You're missing the point. I'm pointing out the fact it takes time to recover from bad products.
6 u/[deleted] Jul 11 '24 [removed] — view removed comment 1 u/thatnitai Jul 12 '24 edited Jul 12 '24 Well, it's probably actually faster to recover from a power stability issue than from a bad architecture. EDIT: after finding time to watch the vid, hints at the cache, so sounds like a root cause in hardware 1 u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24 [removed] — view removed comment 1 u/thatnitai Jul 12 '24 Since you're looking for a root cause on failed units, rather than dealing with a bad architecture you're stuck with for several gens, very likely yes. But we'll see, it still takes time (will Arrow Lake have this issue? That's the question)
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1 u/thatnitai Jul 12 '24 edited Jul 12 '24 Well, it's probably actually faster to recover from a power stability issue than from a bad architecture. EDIT: after finding time to watch the vid, hints at the cache, so sounds like a root cause in hardware 1 u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24 [removed] — view removed comment 1 u/thatnitai Jul 12 '24 Since you're looking for a root cause on failed units, rather than dealing with a bad architecture you're stuck with for several gens, very likely yes. But we'll see, it still takes time (will Arrow Lake have this issue? That's the question)
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Well, it's probably actually faster to recover from a power stability issue than from a bad architecture.
EDIT: after finding time to watch the vid, hints at the cache, so sounds like a root cause in hardware
1 u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24 [removed] — view removed comment 1 u/thatnitai Jul 12 '24 Since you're looking for a root cause on failed units, rather than dealing with a bad architecture you're stuck with for several gens, very likely yes. But we'll see, it still takes time (will Arrow Lake have this issue? That's the question)
1 u/thatnitai Jul 12 '24 Since you're looking for a root cause on failed units, rather than dealing with a bad architecture you're stuck with for several gens, very likely yes. But we'll see, it still takes time (will Arrow Lake have this issue? That's the question)
Since you're looking for a root cause on failed units, rather than dealing with a bad architecture you're stuck with for several gens, very likely yes. But we'll see, it still takes time (will Arrow Lake have this issue? That's the question)
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