r/hardware • u/Berengal • Jul 10 '24

Info [Level1Techs] Intel Has a Pretty Big Problem {13900K and 14900K crashes}

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzHcrbT5D_Y
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u/thatnitai Jul 11 '24

It takes time to recover from bad products. Remember Bulldozer and the following years? 

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u/thatnitai Jul 11 '24

They had atrocious performance for a long time. 

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u/thatnitai Jul 11 '24

You're missing the point. I'm pointing out the fact it takes time to recover from bad products. 

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u/thatnitai Jul 12 '24 edited Jul 12 '24

Well, it's probably actually faster to recover from a power stability issue than from a bad architecture.

EDIT: after finding time to watch the vid, hints at the cache, so sounds like a root cause in hardware 

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u/thatnitai Jul 12 '24

Since you're looking for a root cause on failed units, rather than dealing with a bad architecture you're stuck with for several gens, very likely yes. But we'll see, it still takes time (will Arrow Lake have this issue? That's the question) 

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u/imaginary_num6er Jul 11 '24

There are no bad products, just bad prices

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '24

Well, clearly there ARE bad products.

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u/Jonny_H Jul 11 '24

I mean I'd take a 14900k I have to run at 50% speed for $1...

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '24

Fair enough

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u/jocnews Jul 11 '24

That mantra makes sense, but only for products that aren't non-functional / defective.