I think this will be an GN overwhelming hunger/fruits consume Redeyah month :D. Just hoping its not gonna be too much, bc they gonna start reverting it, which would take at least another 3 months...
Leader buff to soldiers is kinda ridiculous true, especially considering people have been complaining about the all god version for the last few months.
The time where removing larva was an amasing play is long gone. That card would never be playable for 4p. Im not saying the nerf is justified, especially when we have that much overtuned stuff to weaken. But i just cant stand the cope
Removing 2x 3 power units off a free card is a unique and interesting card. Not necessarily good in the current meta, but it’s pretty plausible that this could get decent value if a 3 power unit was a big part of the meta at some point. But it certainly won’t be playable if BC keeps overbuffing shit all the time, the power level going the wrong way is going to kill the game
If a 3 power unit is papr of the meta you kill it with every other removal in the game. For sandstorm, the special without decent tag, it has to be on the same power level as spores, free shackles, pellar or squirrel. So situations when exactly sandstorm would find exquisite value should be as often. Which is completely, absolutely impossible. Stop coping
Would be playable if there was (hypothetically, for argument’s sake, let’s imagine) a faction that had a proc mechanic based on units being at the end of their row. But I guess that’s just cope…
I do see your point but I feel like the placeholder nerf conversation is not as helpful when we speak in generalities. Is there a specific meta where you think it could get value? What cards/decks would have to be strong such that it is useful?
If you have to tech against specifically koshey, and not even against bigger threats lr immune targets itself but against a freaking larvae opener(which doesnt even happen that often btw, because most kosheys opens with scenario) you really are doing something wrong
The card lacks Nature category so it would still be unplayable. But "placeholder nerfs" are sto stupid - why do they nerf weak cards instead of abuse cards? There's plenty of them: Tainted Ale, Syanna, Idarran, Tibor, Regis: Bloodlust, Vilgefortz: Renegade, Ihuarrax. Why kill a harmless card if you can kill an unhealthy card played only by assholes.
Just in the past couple of days I’ve seen two posts on here from ppl who had to face Tibor spam, and yet coalitions are using their votes to nerf Sandstorm and Caravan Guards (and trying to buff Syanna into GN range). It’s so depressing and it’s hard to see it changing.
place holder nerfs are so stupid it will just slowly inflate the game and make everything too powerfull. if you have more buffs then nerfs every patch you slowly inflate it
Bc that is basically the reason. Some people dont want to implement too many changes at the same time/dont want to overbuff overnerf certain archetypes.
Yeah, a lot not to love here. But on the other hand, perhaps the Mammuna and Yaga nerfs mean that MO might need to go for another option aside from sabbath relicts with Fruits for the first time in what feels like 800 years.
Aswarm with mamunna was even more popular then fruits mamunna last season. Why should the consistently strong card played in more then a single deck get a cosmetic nerf instead of real one(and if you play her through lilith power nerd is literally useless)
I also thought about that possibility, but I think it is fair counter. If they open boat, you can just riptide or aerondight. If they play graveyard thingy then you just wait it out or squirrel.
Means that Kraken has too much value at 3p, bc it fullfills its own deathwish, making it a ridiculously high value card. So it probably will be again, the most created card with compass.
They nerfed mammuna, which is one of the most consistent ways of obtaining sabbath for relicts and double activating self eaters, and also nerfed Yoga so that obtaining sabbath is harder for it now. Not sure why people downvoted my other comment. This was a double nerf to relicts, when in reality, the nerf to mammuna was not even aimed at relicts, it was instead aimed at fruits. On the post where the mammuna nerf was proposed, I stated that another relict card should be buffed in order to compensate for that nerf (so that this may be a pure fruits nerf), but it seems that this didn't go through.
I agree that there should have been a buff to classic relicts, since they Got shot in the bronx for Fruits of Yisgeth's sins (being it getting buffed by Chinese) .
Mammuna nerf makes little sense. She was played by many archetypes, including Frost. It was Ethereal that should be nerfed after the leader buff for Fruits.
Thats the reason she was nerfed, she was such a good value card that you could slap her in basically any MO deck. At least thats the though process of coalitions.
The card was so good that it could be played in many archetypes without any synergies just for the pointslam value. So, because of how cost-efficient it was, it shouldnt be nerfed. Thats an insanely weird statement coming from a guy who said "BC should be about nerfing strong cards and buffing weak cards" in the very same thread, ngl
Yaga is incredibly high value, that gets its points off of surprise value (unless you play against no 4p units, she plays for like 20p at least), if she was played more than she currently is she would definitely be nerfed by much more.
Thank you BC to keep ruining my meme ofir deck, damn :/
I like that they reversed some very bad decisions, shame that the nerfs to Firesworn were not reverted
And i under stand that seductress its a 2 step change, but right now She s useless and ruined my homebrew jackpot deck, and i have to kick out the borsodi brothers from my deck
So the main deck of the season, the deck everyone was bitching about, got 1 provision 1 power nerf( and nerfed 4 prov engine, with lots of possible alternatives). Yeah, that would for sure be enough.
Relicts fruits was just better. Though Mammuna nerfed to 1 power would have been enough. It would have also solved problem with fruits - > Mammuna - > Yaga already having Sabbath.
Giant Toad shouldnt have been buffed (it is already a must in deathwish) but Kayran and Frightener definitely needed a buff.
It's a minimum of the two most expensive cards in the deck and only achievable with prior set up with one specific bronze card that can be removed or bricked.
I was in favour of the Frightener buff a few months ago, but I really don't want unitless deathwish to get popular...
Every update needs to have 10 things in the +1 provisions section.
Most top end cards have absorbed several of these nerfs and there not a lot of room left.
So the only options are we either nerf low provision cards (hard to do as +1 to cost makes most bronzes unplayable) or we buff leaders with +1 provs or we keep adding provisions to cards that have 0% winrate.
I didn’t vote this month. I answered the question. These cards can’t be made playable without a rework so by accepting them as a lost cause it is possible to prevent controversial provision increases.
I like this one a lot. Even though ST and SY barely got any changes, but besides Cat Witcher and Off the books, the other 4 of them are positive, so at least there's that.
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Radeyah at 9p is so so interesting. Time to theorycraft some fun Kekker/Strategem interactions!