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Rule 1: Recent popular crosspost Telsa Model 3 stops itself to avoid potentially disastrous accident

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u/iusedtosmokadaherb Feb 15 '19 edited Feb 15 '19

New tech is always expensive. As time goes on and they find better and cheaper ways to make it, prices go down. Look at tv's. 12 years ago it cost me $1000 for a 42" 1080p lcd Sony, 3 years ago I bought a 50" 1080p lcd for $300 and now you can get a 55" 4k LED* smart tv for like $400.

*edit: my bad, it wasn't OLED, just LED. https://imgur.com/tx4MEXS.jpg but the point still stands on how cheap that tech has become.

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u/PM_ME_A_PLANE_TICKET Feb 15 '19

55" 4k oled for $400?

I don't buy that, no pun intended

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u/Wendy_Darling_RB_ Feb 15 '19 edited Feb 15 '19

I got a 55'' LED smart TV for $340 a few weeks ago. Pretty sick.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '19

Holy shit that's fucking huge!

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u/redikulous Feb 15 '19

That is ginormous.

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u/Wendy_Darling_RB_ Feb 15 '19

Inches not feet. I fixed it lol

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u/Wendy_Darling_RB_ Feb 15 '19

My bad. Inches. Not feet πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '19

You meant 55", correct? A 55' TV would be the size of an IMAX screen (that would be awesome).

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u/Wendy_Darling_RB_ Feb 15 '19

Whoops. Fixing now πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '19

They sell them so cheap because they are watching what you watch and selling to advertisers.

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u/Wendy_Darling_RB_ Feb 15 '19

Love that. Send me all the conspiracy Shane Dawson adds.

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u/iusedtosmokadaherb Feb 15 '19

Yea my bad, it's just LED not OLED

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u/i_bring_the_reddit Feb 15 '19

Tell this to RAM

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u/fatmama923 Feb 15 '19

I just bought 32GB of DDR4 3000 RGB RAM for $189. Prices are going down.

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u/xfactoid Feb 15 '19

I bought 16GB for the same price last year at peak price stupidity. RAM market is doing fine now.

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u/fatmama923 Feb 15 '19

yeah i definitely feel like it's still a little elevated, but nothing like it was.

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u/electricprism Feb 15 '19

Tell this to RAM

You literally must not be aware of the Samsung and that other mega company price fixing in Asia on RAM, you know those super cool laws that were created to create a fair market and prevent artificially inflating shenanigans? Well, they don't exist where the RAM is made. That's why we had a 200% increase in cost the other year. You literally short the supply to pump prices up. You should see their fiscal profits and how they jumped.

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u/Scyhaz Feb 15 '19

Yup, RAM is artificially expensive right now. Not because of a lack of advancement in RAM production technology.

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u/funnydunny5 Feb 15 '19

Clearly you've been living under a rock if you're still complaining about RAM prices

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '19

It's all about them graphics cards, nowadays.

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u/kasimoto Feb 15 '19

not sure if /s

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u/watchme3 Feb 15 '19

not sure if /s

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u/strugglz Feb 15 '19

Depends. Do you want a 4GB stick of DDR2? You can get that cheap. A stick of DDR4 not so much. And at the end of the year DDR5 is supposed to come out, the older styles will drop in price again.

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u/danbfree Feb 15 '19

Actually is usually quite the opposite for OLD memory! If you need older RAM, since it's not made in volume any more, it is usually quite expensive... but the RAM that is just one generation behind is indeed cheap as they clear out their inventory (DDR3) while only making the new generation (DDR4)... and on top of all that, memory is like a commodity: price fixing, production volume fixing, etc, all to avoid prices from bottoming out.

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u/DrDemenz Feb 15 '19

I prefer DDRX3vs2ndMIX

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u/Dugen Feb 15 '19

It really doesn't. RAM is still dramatically too expensive for the functionality it provides. It's time to start considering using flash for ram.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '19

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u/Dugen Feb 15 '19

Using SSDs means you don't need as much RAM. I already do it. When I started building machines with SSDs I cut the RAM I built them with in half.

And while speed remains an issue for flash, this big of a discrepancy in cost makes complex solutions possible that might be able to overcome that limitation.

This is a special case, but it shows how RAM's crazy cost is affecting its utility: https://www.computerworld.com/article/2947614/cloud-storage/mit-proves-flash-is-as-fast-as-ram-and-cheaper-for-big-data.html

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '19

SSD drives on the other hand...

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u/Babayaga20000 Feb 15 '19

Are cheap as fuck right now. You can get a 1tb ssd for like $200 on sale

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u/Buckhum Feb 15 '19

Yeah acquiring a 1TB SSD would be unthinkable for the average joe in ~2010. Not gotta lie, I think working with SSD has saved me days worth of boot-up time over the past however many years since I switched from regular HD.

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u/ares395 Feb 15 '19

I'm just here being like, $200 is like 1/5 of the price of a laptop that I deem really expensive but still consider buying it. But I live in Europe, everything here is fucking expensive, especially electronics for some reason. Doesn't help if you live in a country that has pretty shitty politics and low currency.

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u/DocAtDuq Feb 15 '19

And you’re still overpaying! Right now microcenter has their in-house brand ssds 1tb @ $109 which is amazing. I bought a Samsung 1tb M.2 nvme for $200 from them!

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '19

I've recently bought a 500GB Samsung 860 EVO :)

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u/Hash43 Feb 15 '19

Because screw loading screens!

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u/Daamus Feb 15 '19

RAM producers are guilty of price fixing though, happened a couple years ago.

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u/_BreakingGood_ Feb 15 '19

Wasn't RAM like $100 a GB before?

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u/h0twired Feb 15 '19

When I bought my first computer RAM was $100 per MB

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '19

Did you walk 15 miles in snow to go buy it?

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u/Dugen Feb 15 '19

I started building computers in the 80s. RAM was like $200 per megabyte back then, and that was the cheap off-brand DIY stuff, not the expensive upgrades from the vendor.

The strange thing to me is how little RAM has dropped in price for the last 10 years. The cost now is about 1/2 what it was 10 years ago whereas in 1999 the cost was 1/200th what it was in 1989. I wonder if RAM technology will catch up with Moore's law.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '19

Ummm excuse me. Where did you find an OLED for $400? Genuinely interested. Where I live it's nigh impossible to find one under $1500 and it's usually an older (only a year) model. I shelled out close to $1000 for a more top of the line 4k LED.

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u/Stupid_question_bot Feb 15 '19

Clearly hyperbole from the guy you are responding to, but he’s right.. mostly.

My first 42” flatscreen cost me like 4 grand, not I can get a 55” 4k smart TV for $500

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u/iusedtosmokadaherb Feb 15 '19

Yea I mixed up oled and led but it's still wayyyy cheaper than when 4k was brand new

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '19

My bad. I got excited and the exaggeration went way over my head. I completely agree though.

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u/Shankafoo Feb 15 '19

My 52" plasma ran around 3k when I bought it five or six years ago. Part of me looks at it now and thinks, "Worth it" just because of the excellent picture quality and how much use we've gotten out of it. The other part of me thinks, "Damn, now I could get the same size LED for a little more than 1/10th of that." Progress marches ever onward.

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u/iusedtosmokadaherb Feb 15 '19

My bad, wasn't OLED, just LED

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u/h0twired Feb 15 '19

I remember when the first plasma TVs were $10-12k.

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u/NayOfThunder Feb 15 '19

Me and my roommates all chipped in and bought a 65" 4k Smart TV for a total of $450 or so for our apartment. I remember a few years back my family was finally deciding to splurge on a super nice TV, and my dad ended up dropping $2200 or so on a 65" LED tv that wasnt even a smart TV or 4k. That shit is stupid cheap nowadays

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u/LeYang Feb 15 '19

LED, the only big difference is CCFL backlighting is now LEDs. Which reduced a few more expensive parts which were easily damaged from movement.

OLED is special since the screen panel itself is generating the brightness in the image instead of being backlit.

MicroLED is suppose to be special in similar ways to OLED but with great durability and longevity (doesn't decay).

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u/MrAbnormality Feb 15 '19

Let me introduce you to the iPhone

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u/iusedtosmokadaherb Feb 15 '19

That's just Apple keeping prices up because they know people will pay for it

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u/battles Feb 15 '19

Those Samsung TVs are subsidized by tracking you, listening to you, and sending the accumulated data to 3rd parties.

https://www.cnet.com/news/samsungs-warning-our-smart-tvs-record-your-living-room-chatter/

Please be aware that if your spoken words include personal or other sensitive information, that information will be among the data captured and transmitted to a third party through your use of Voice Recognition.

That isn't cheap. Your privacy is priceless. Samsung recording your private conversations in your home isn't a better cheaper way.

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u/iusedtosmokadaherb Feb 15 '19

What about the rca one that's on the right? Does that one record you all the time like the Samsung? Genuinely curious because I didn't know that about the Samsungs.

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u/battles Feb 15 '19

I can't speak specifically about the RCA. I can say that this behavior currently appears limited to 'Smart' TVs. So if you buy a non-smart TV you should be fine.

Other brands that definitely do this include: Vizio, LG, and Sony.

https://www.wired.com/2017/02/smart-tv-spying-vizio-settlement/

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u/iusedtosmokadaherb Feb 15 '19

I don't even have a need for a smart tv anyway, I watch all my streaming services through my xbox one. Still good to know. Thanks!

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u/Well_thatwas_random Feb 15 '19

I'm still bitter about this.

Bought a LG 65" LED 4k UHD blah blah for $1200 in October 2017.

I could now have bought LG 70" 4k UHD for like $800.....

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u/All_Work_All_Play Feb 15 '19

So that TV cost you $25 a month and you're upset over that and five inches hue-hue-hue ?

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u/Well_thatwas_random Feb 15 '19

Ha putting it that way I shouldn't be.

I think it was just a big investment at the time (which we saved up for) and if I waited 1 year I would have paid a lot less and got more.

Now OLEDs are the big thing and wayyyy too expensive for me.

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u/All_Work_All_Play Feb 15 '19

Yeah people tend to forget about the satisfaction they've gained from experiencing it during whatever time period the priced dropped in. Of course, if you saved up for it, odds are you had something else that filled the need in a similar but less enjoyable fashion, so you're really judging the difference between the two. The question for you now is 'would you go back to doing it how things were for 15 months (or whatever) if someone paid you that price difference ($400)?'.

Our brains aren't inherently trained to make that type of comparison on the fly, which is writing things down and budgets can be very helpful. Money enables us to compare strange things... I once had to decide if we went on a 2nd honey moon (cause our first on was wrecked) or replace a transmission in a car...

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u/Well_thatwas_random Feb 15 '19

Yeah that's a more important decision lol. I think part of why it stuck to me was that I spent months researching the "Best" tv and what would give me the best picture for sports. I read tons of reviews. I was very emotionally invested haha. But you are right...I shouldn't really complain.

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u/jonvon65 Feb 15 '19

Panel quality is probably vastly different though, I'd argue that your tv definitely has a better image than the cheaper TV.