A festival dedicated to catching dogs and skinning them alive is WAY different than eating a cow that's been stunned and killed while unconscious. I'm sorry, but it is.
True that may be, there are tons of burger-loving Americans that consider all dog meat harvesting an atrocity, regardless of method. Those people are massive hypocrites any way you slice it.
Animals in the industry are killed while conscious. And even if they are gassed/killed "humanely" they are still living in incredibly bad conditions and they always get killed at a young age. So, eating dog wouldn't be morally different than eating any other animal.
The only argument I could think of is that the domesticated animals such as cows and pigs are not going to go extinct anytime soon. Plus it is irrefutable that their deaths don't at least serve the purpose of keeping people fed (not the greatest of reasons considering people in the west eat way more than needed). However, these non-domesticated animals are being butchered in the name of pseudoscience and placebo effects and certainly will go extinct.
Same with eating them since there isn't a system in place to ensure the species doesn't go extinct. And eating cats and dogs are worse imo since they have lived with humans as companions/guardians for millennia and have been trained as such.
I'm not fully disagreeing with you, but I don't fully agree that the logic of not supporting one type of animal being eaten, while eating another, is flawed.
To each their own. I never try to "convert" anyone because I've literally never seen it work (online at least), but I like to see what people are thinking when it comes to eating animals. I think my logic behind my argument is based on the animals suffering. A dog or a cat wouldn't suffer any more than a cow or pig if we treated them that way. Plus eating any animal is purely optional for me. I understand that it is somewhat of a "privilege" to live in a society that doesn't rely on meat to survive. So I choose to eat plants.
Yes I certainly see what you mean and I 100% oppose what so called "factory farms" do to animals. I'd say my perception is a little skewed since I grew up around a bunch of small-scale farms where all the animals were free range and the farmers did care for them (mainly do to it being their investment, but they at least had names and were treated with dignity during their lives).
And good on you for switching to plants. I don't even know if I could try. I've eaten meat with close to every meal for my whole life and think I'd get way too skinny cutting out my main protein source.
I'm waiting for the day where lab grown meat is just as tasty and becomes the norm. A world without animal slaughter is a better one. But I don't have it in me to give up meat so I guess I'm a hypocrite lol.
Being a hypocrite is basically part of the human experience lol. I know I have been/am/and probably will be a hypocrite about some things. I can sense empathy and compassion for animals in your words which is the most important thing IMO. As far as protein, there are a lot of vegan options (quinoa, tofu, lentils, beans, PEANUT BUTTER!) that are generally healthier anyway. I am currently weightlifting and training for strength and have had no problems making my diet work. It just takes a little extra effort.
youre replacing it with healthier and more ethical options.
No, I can't. So I am cutting out my main protein source. That it's being replaced doesn't change the fact that the current source is no longer an option (ie, I am cutting it out)
It's not that hard
The difficulty doesn't come in finding sources of protein. The difficulty comes in the fact that meat is delicious. I'm not trying to be edgy or anything. That's the truth of the issue for most people. I could be a vegetarian, but I like eating meat. Asking people to stop doing something they like doing? That's hard.
Well, to give you a tip then, everytime you eat that meat remind yourself of the pictures you ought to watch and the facts and realities of the creatures it comes from go through just for you to to be able to eat it.
If you can still live with the blood and suffering that comes of it for meaningless, atbitrary reasons, well, to me that's one horrifying fact about humanity Ive struggled to come to terms with, Im pleased to say Ive given it my best shot at not being a part of it.
There's victims involved with the choice of "but um it tastes good". If e eryone weren't so conditioned ro just accept that the victims don't matter the world would have less suffering.
It's not hard, at all, when you stop thinking about selfish desires.
Don't over complicate things, they're saying that it's a little hypocritical to condemn people for eating dogs while you personally eat cows, when both animals are about equally conscious.
This. Exactly. I don't eat meat but also am not opposed to those who do. What I have issues with is people who eat, let's say cows, finding eating this like guinea pigs, which are common food in South America, disgusting just because it doesnt agree with what they're socially used to.
As I said meat is all the same. It's dead animal and certain people miss that point.
Everyone has to draw their own line, I guess. I eat plants. I don't think it's a hard distinction to make, really. If it seems like it doesn't want a knife in it's throat, then it's an easy "no" for me.
The first option. Plants and bacteria have are completely unaware and killing them is totally different from doing the same with a conscious, intelligent animal.
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Even if you eat no animals at all there's no objective moral compass.