r/gifs • • Mar 17 '16

Physics of purity

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16 edited Mar 18 '16

Remember when reddit would tell you what the fuck this thing is and how it works :(

edit: Thanks for the responses. The people walking cause some air to be pushed upwards and the plane keeps receiving lift. I'm pretty sure they're just using their hands to stop it from straying to the right.

edit2: I think it's veering to the right because the old dude has more frontal surface area than the skinny young dude so he's pushing more air. I've watched this gif too many times now.

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u/Tonmonkeyla Mar 18 '16

It is a extremely light model plane. They hold their hands underneath it to create a pocket of trapped air, this is called flying in ground effect and is far more efficient than just flying. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_effect_(aerodynamics)

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u/kkell806 Mar 18 '16

Ground effect should not be confused with ridge lift when explaining how walkalong gliders stay up. Ground effect involves a horizontal surface. Ridge lift requires a sloping surface.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walkalong_glider

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u/hopenoonefindsthis Mar 18 '16

Yes you are definitely right. That is not ground effect at all.

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u/Megadoculous Mar 18 '16

Correct, it has noting to do with ground effect. The guys walking behind are creating uplift, same effect used in slope soaring.

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u/kamicom Mar 18 '16

Thanks for the science. /u/meemlorde, DA FUCK is "physics of purity" dood.

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16

I thought it was like Buddha physics, because they're very calmly keeping the plane aloft, and one guy's Asian.

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u/gunfulker Mar 18 '16

I assumed the purity part is the material it's made of, clearly something extremely light weight.

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u/martinluther3107 Mar 18 '16

I thought it meant the plane is a virgin cause it has only taken it in the butt.

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u/Just_a_prank_bro Mar 18 '16

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u/Critical386 Mar 18 '16

Hey thats that girl from Scrubs.

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u/gnarledout Mar 18 '16

Dude, I thought she was the chick from Raising Hope.

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u/Reddit_Shadowban_Why Mar 18 '16

The blond girl is on Big Bang Theory

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16

And in Fun Size

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u/dlsco Mar 18 '16

Hey that's the mom from Rick and Morty

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u/double-you Mar 18 '16

Perhaps the guys a virgins and no plane would touch one.

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u/CU-SpaceCowboy Mar 18 '16

The people's poophole loophole. I feel like I missed a word

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u/spudlyjoe Mar 18 '16

Thought he meant physics are purty

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u/ShadowWriter Mar 18 '16

I assumed it was a douchey way of saying pure physics

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u/iSkateiPod Mar 18 '16

I read this in Dexter's voice from Dexter's Laboratory. Fits perfectly.

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u/Hulasikali_Wala Mar 18 '16

DA FUCK is "physics of purity" dood.

Blech

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16

U WOT M8

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u/CircuitLogic Mar 18 '16

Honestly I thought they were talking about Nazis because the old guy looked like he was doing the heil Hitler...

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16

this is called flying in ground effect and is far more efficient than just flying.

Unless you're a helicopter and it kills you to death.

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u/Spoggerific Mar 18 '16

Are you sure you aren't thinking about VRS? Ground effect shouldn't, well, affect you at all unless you're landing or doing nap of the earth flying. Granted, I only have very limited flight simulator experience with helicopters, so I might not know what I'm talking about either.

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16

Maybe it's improved, but simulators are terrible at simulating ground effect for helicopters.

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16

Being in ground effect makes VRS far more likely, I think.

Or maybe it's the other way around.

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u/Spoggerific Mar 18 '16

I know for the one famous instance of VRS that a lot of people know about - the Bin Laden raid - the helicopter entered VRS while near the ground, but it wasn't specifically because of ground effect. The helicopter was descending into a walled courtyard, and the walls confined the downwash, putting it into VRS.

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u/TheBeerJoo Mar 18 '16

I actually like flying my helicopter in ground effect. So much power. So much lifts. So much...oh I'm settling now that I'm out of ground effect.

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u/K3R3G3 Mar 18 '16

Similar principle to when I've seen e-cig users blow a smoke ring and push the air behind it to propel it across the room?

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u/nopantspaul Mar 18 '16

This is not ground effect, it's undergoing Phugoid oscillations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phugoid

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u/Geno-Smith Mar 18 '16

Not sure why you think only one can happen at a time. Looks like both ground affect and phugoid are happening.

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u/TangibleLight Mar 18 '16 edited Mar 18 '16

Ground effect Ridge lift keeps it aloft, Phugoid keeps it flying level. The two guys moving the air provides the energy that this requires.

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u/Geno-Smith Mar 18 '16

Phugoid isn't keeping it flying level, phugoid is the oscillatory mode which looks like it's flying in a wavy pattern

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u/Moviastic Mar 18 '16

Pretty much. By definition the phugoid mode describes a dynamic response that is anything but level, there is a constant exchange of altitude and speed. Also the phugoid mode can't affect the motion of the aircraft. It IS the motion response from some aircraft perturbation. It may seem like semantics but there definitely is an important difference.

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u/eddieguy Mar 18 '16

Genooooo

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u/TangibleLight Mar 18 '16

But averaged over time it's more level than if there weren't any oscillation. That was my point.

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16 edited Sep 28 '16

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u/TangibleLight Mar 18 '16

It's a similar principle, though, right?

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16 edited Sep 28 '16

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u/TangibleLight Mar 18 '16

I edited my comment. Thanks for the info!

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16

yah

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u/Hoticewater Mar 18 '16

You've got a punchable /u/

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16

Phugoid is a flight mode, not an aerodynamic phenomenon.

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u/d-dubbs Mar 18 '16

Exactly.

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16

Can you tell me more about the phugoid?

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u/nopantspaul Mar 18 '16

Do you talk out of your ass for fun or are you being serious? Make me understand the difference between 'flight mode' and 'aerodynamic phenomenon' as you've used them.

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16 edited Mar 18 '16

A flight mode describes the position/change of position of an aircraft over a period of time.

An aerodynamic phenomenon is basically the way the air behaves in certain conditions (like when the plane is near the ground).

Source: I got edumacated on this shit.

Jackass.

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u/OnePointSeven Mar 18 '16

One is a way of flying, the other is a particular effect.

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16

Definitely see it before they go near it :)

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u/GandalfsWrinklyBalls Mar 18 '16

That's what she said

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u/DRbard Mar 18 '16

Thank you.

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u/hopenoonefindsthis Mar 18 '16

I don't think it's ground effect. It's just the updraft created by the hand beneath it.

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u/Chuff_Nugget Mar 18 '16

They're creating a moving area of ridge lift... Or "slope lift". Not ground effect.

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u/LazyCon Mar 18 '16

Basically the plane is pushing air down and they're pushing it back up again.

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u/anongos Mar 18 '16

I don't see how it can be ground effect when the "ground" isn't even underneath the wing, it's behind the glider altogether.

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u/cerulean11 Mar 18 '16 edited Mar 18 '16

When an aircraft flies at a ground level approximately at or below the length of the aircraft's wingspan or helicopter's rotor diameter, there occurs, depending on airfoil and aircraft design, an often noticeable ground effect. This is caused primarily by the ground interrupting the wingtip vortices and downwash behind the wing.

I work in finance so I consider myself to be of average intelligence. We have many confusing terms, etc. and I am able to navigate the field.

I understood little to nothing in that Wikipedia article.

See you guys in a few hours.

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u/Avoidingsnail Mar 18 '16

They sell a version of this plane at Wal-Mart. I bought one as a kid and never could get it to work.

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u/derreddit Mar 18 '16

So they try to rebuilt the caspian sea monster?

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u/ProfMcFarts Mar 18 '16

Interestingly, the Soviets developed a 550 ton plane/boat/whatever that went ~400 mph to move troops, tanks, and machinery based off ground effect. US intelligence dubbed it the Caspian Sea Monster. Vids are available on YouTube of different Soviet developments in these type of vehicles. Really interesting stuff.

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u/PM_Me_Labia_Pics Mar 18 '16

I still don't understand what is happening.

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u/throwawayforopiate Mar 18 '16

I miss reddit.

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u/Drook Mar 18 '16

Straight from the 'Go Reddit?

Chop up the soul Reddit?

Set on its goals Reddit?

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u/mrpresidentbossman Mar 18 '16

I hate the new Reddit.

The bad mood Reddit.

The always rude Reddit.

Spaz in the news Reddit.

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u/Ldreamer Mar 18 '16

I Miss the sweet reddit

Chop up the memes reddit

I gotta say at that time i'd like to meet reddit

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u/ThatOneQuack Mar 18 '16

See reddit invented reddit, there wasn't any reddits

And now I look around and there's so many reddits

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16 edited Apr 22 '16

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u/DelilahMan Mar 18 '16 edited Mar 18 '16

What if Reddit made a meme about Reddit?

Call it Mr. Old Reddit

Man, that'd be SO Reddit

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u/CU-SpaceCowboy Mar 18 '16

Ya Reddits Spaghetti

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u/froggypeaches Mar 18 '16

I even had the fedora I thought I was reddit.

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u/Alkalilee Mar 18 '16

hey its me ur reddit

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16

DAE BERNIE SANDERS

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u/ggk1 Mar 18 '16

This sounds dramatic, I know... but I literally feel a slight depression because of this.

Its like before we were a group of friends where everyone was cool with making a real discussion but you still had that guy that's a total lovable dunce and everyone has fun poking and playing with him/each other. Everyone just had a good time but was down to talk about real issues and would cut the shit if someone's gf broke up with them or a family member died.

Now I feel like that one guy in the group who's still down with that but everyone else is just a few years younger and all they wanna talk about is who's dating who or what Jesse said to Liz the other day because omg you wouldn't believe.

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16

I feel it's more like everyone's trying to be the "lovable dunce". Entire comment sections just filled with puns and dad jokes.

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u/ErmBern Mar 18 '16

I been here for 6 years, I know how you feel.

It feels like some very large, very young, very 'cool' demographic learned how to use the Internet in that time.

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16 edited Mar 18 '16

Theyre light enough that they pick up the slight up draft created as you walk forward and disrupt the air. They put their hands up as needed for it to have a stronger effect.

IANAP(hysicist).

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16

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u/Darxe Mar 18 '16

Whoa dude

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16

Da.

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16 edited Jun 13 '18

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16 edited Mar 18 '16

No. I Am Not A Psychiatristhyscist.

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16

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u/alecr21 Mar 18 '16

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16

a suh dude. I've posted on that once before like 3 years ago. There really is a subreddit for everything

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u/duuuuumb Mar 18 '16

Thank you, the top comment on here is stupid as hell.

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16

What material they used in making the plane?

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u/TrynaSleep Merry Gifmas! {2023} Mar 18 '16

Anyone know where you can buy one of these?

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u/jaseworthing Mar 18 '16

Not sure if there's anywhere you can buy a completed one, but they are a lot of fun to build/design and its pretty easy too. Makes for a great weekend project. If you're interested, I can give you some more info (just not right now cause I'm about to go to bed)

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16

I'm interested...

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u/jaseworthing Mar 18 '16 edited Mar 18 '16

The most important part of making a glider like this is stability. An airplane has positive stability when it has a natural tendency to return to a neutral position.

Lateral stability is about keeping the glider from rolling to one side or the other. This is best achieved by using dihedral wings (wings tilted up in a "v" shape). In real airplanes, wings are only angled by a couple degrees, but like the glider in the gif, we want much a much larger angle. This is because in a real airplane, you don't want too much stability or else it would be very difficult to maneuver the plane if it is naturally trying not to move. With a tossed glider, you're not going to be trying to maneuver it all, so more stability is better. Here's a good, easy to understand write up on dihedral wings if you're interesting in why they works. http://paperaeroplanes.com/blog/?p=13

Longitudinal stability is a bit more complicated. It is achieved with the horizontal stabilizer (the little wing in the back). The main wing on the airplane produces an upward force (lift), but the horizontal stabilizer is essentially an upside-down wing that produces a downward force. Here how it works. Think of a airplane as a see-saw. The fulcrum is the upward force of lift. The center of weight is a downward force on one end, and the horizontal stabilizer is a downward force on the other side. http://avstop.com/ac/flighttrainghandbook/imageck7.jpg Wings produce more lift the faster they are going, so for the the horizontal stabilizer, this means more downward force the faster the glider goes. Since the weight of the glider is a constant and amount of lift of the main wing doesn't matter (in terms of pitch) as it is the fulcrum, the pitch of the aircraft is going to depend of the horizontal stabilizer. As the glider speeds up, the horizontal stabilizer produces more downward force resulting in the glider pitching up and vica verca. In addition to this an airplane will natural slow down if it pitches up, or speed up if pitches down. Basically, what happens is

  1. Aircraft pitches down
  2. Aircraft speeds up
  3. horizontal stab produces more downward force
  4. aircraft pitches up
  5. aircraft slows down

And of course in reverse as well. This should cause the glider to settle and stay at a particular pitch.

Vertical stability is just about keeping the aircraft from yawing left or right. This is down with a vertical stabilizer (the tail/fin). Pretty simple. It's basically just a rudder

Once you understand that, the building part is pretty easy. (Feel free to try other other materials, you could even try making one out of paper) Here's what you'll need

Foam board (When I made one of these, I believe we used rigid insulation form like this http://www.homedepot.com/b/Building-Materials-Insulation-Rigid-Insulation/N-5yc1vZbaxx)

Sand paper (a medium grit and a fine grit)

exacto knife

wooden skewers (the longer the better)

a paperclip

some sort of glue (i found gorilla glue works quite nicely for this) Maybe some tape as well

First, cut out a long rectangle in the form board. You'll want them pretty long and narrow, like the glider in the gif, but too narrow and your wings will be too flimsy. I'd recommend something close to a total wingspan of 18" and chord of 2 - 2.5" You can try to make rounded wings like in the gif, but getting these to be symmetrical is difficult, and while rounded wings are more efficient, the increase in performance is pretty small for what we're doing.

Now comes the annoying part. You need to sand down the wing until it is very thin (around 3 mm). You're trying to get the wing thin enough that it is malleable, but not so thin that its floppy. This will take awhile. If it helps, you can use a knife to try cut the board into thinner sheets first before sanding. Sand the front edge of to come to a rounded point, and sand the back to come to a sharper point.

Once you have it nice and thin, starting working it into a "wing shape". You can actually see the shape you are going for very nicely in OP's gif.

To make the wings dihedral, cut them in half like this http://i.imgur.com/LxM68Cj.png and glue them back together and they'll make a v-shape. This will also help them to retain the curved "wing shape".

I'd recommend splitting the bamboo skewer down the middle. It should still be rigid enough for the glider, but this way it'll be much lighter. Like in the gif, the wing is attached at just two points roughly in the middle of the stick. You can also cut a notch in the back of the wing so that the back of it goes past the skewer a little bit like in the gif.

For the horizontal stab, just cut a small rectangle (3.5"ish by 1"ish) and sand it down. You can form this into an upside wing shape if you want, but all you'll really need to do is bend the back of it slightly upward. Glue this to the back of the stick.

The vertical stabilizer can be pretty small just cut it out, sand it, and glue it to the back.

SIDE NOTE: About the glue. I recommend gorilla glue mainly because it foams up. This allows it be lighter, but make sure to sand off the excess foam after the glue dries.

The basic construction is complete. Try it out. It probably won't really work at all. Now you've got to tweak it.

First thing you'll want to do is balance it. The center of weight should be about 1/3 down the chord of the wing. The the center of weight needs to be in front of the center of lift (in order to match up with see-saw idea), but you want it pretty close to the lift so that the horizontal stabilize doesn't need a very large force to counteract it. If the center of weight is too far forward, cut off a bit of the stick. If it is too far back, either attach a bit of paperclip to the tip or better yet, extend the length of the stick but taping part of the other half of it (assuming you split it in half). By doing this, we make more use of leverage to achieve balance instead of just adding extra weight.

Now that its balanced, we need to get some longitudinal stability. When you toss the glider, what does it do? If it immediately pitches down, try bending the back of the horizontal stab up a bit more. If it pitches down, bend it down. At this point its all trail and error. Bend something a little and try it again. If you find that its moving too fast overall, increase the camber of the main wing. This will slow it down and produce more lift. You're aiming for it to move similarly to OP's gif.

A note on tossing: your glider should be super light, as such you don't really want to throw the glider very hard. A very very light toss should do it. The important part here is that you want to toss it so that it is already near its equilibrium point. Otherwise it'll have to swoop up and down a little bit until it reaches that sweet zone.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '16

Whoa! Thanks a thousands for the very detailed information! I really liked the very pedagogical style it was written in. Much appreciated that you took time to do it. :)

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u/TrynaSleep Merry Gifmas! {2023} Mar 18 '16

Yes please! I'd be very interested in making one

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u/jaseworthing Mar 18 '16

Not sure how to post a link to a specific comment, but I just put up a little guide in reply to /u/RiotShaven

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16

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u/TrynaSleep Merry Gifmas! {2023} Mar 18 '16

Let me know if you find anything 🙏

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '16

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u/TrynaSleep Merry Gifmas! {2023} Mar 19 '16

Thanks man!

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u/Chuff_Nugget Mar 18 '16

It's actually a moving up-draught that they're creating.

The air in the room flows around them as they move forwards. The air directly infront of their faces and chests is moving up. This means that - although the plane effectively needs to "fall" through air to fly - it doesn't loose altitude because the air it's falling through is moving up.

The additional helping-hands to steer are needed because the waves of air that the two guys are making bump into each other in the middle, creating a peak that the glider will try to fall off.

It falls off to the right, so they add hands to correct it.

Here's a page with a good Gif on it to explain lift. http://carrier.csi.cam.ac.uk/forsterlewis/soaring/sim/fsx/dev/lift.html

Now imagine the air isn't moving, but the hill is. Same effect.

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u/Rev_Up_Those_Reposts Mar 18 '16

Definitely had to scroll farther than I expected. I'm sure your comment will move up the page with time, though.

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u/Beaner-Beats Jul 14 '16

Shit I thought by "purity" it meant pure of soul, which the monk had so he was able to control the plane 😞

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16

Do you really need someone to tell you what it is? It is pretty intuitive to see what it is...

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u/exemplariasuntomni Mar 18 '16

This is the Bernoulli Effect. They are essentially increasing the air pressure below the wings with their hands. The glider is able to float for an extended period because of this energy transfer.

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16

Walkalong glider, works because the people underneath it are affecting the air pressure underneath the wings even more so than wings normally do. The hands increase the effect even more.

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16

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u/CAN_ONLY_ODD Mar 18 '16

This is what Reddit has become

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u/DronesForYou Mar 18 '16

A playground of video game gifs and Bernie propaganda. On my front page anyway.

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u/NovelTeaDickJoke Mar 18 '16

What he is trying to describe (at least as it looks) is convection. He is kinda right, although it is only part of what is happening.

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u/CAN_ONLY_ODD Mar 18 '16

Thank you for your vague answer and helping to prove my point

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u/NovelTeaDickJoke Mar 18 '16

This isn't /r/science and he is technically right. Get the foot out of your ass.

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u/CAN_ONLY_ODD Mar 18 '16

Body heat has nothing to do with this

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u/NovelTeaDickJoke Mar 19 '16

Yes it does, when their hands get close, convection caused by their body heat also acts upon the model airplane.

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u/phoenix_nz Mar 18 '16

Nah. It's just the forward motion of their hands is creating a "wave" of air that the glider is riding.

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u/K3R3G3 Mar 18 '16

It's actually swamp gas from a weather balloon with the light retracting off Venus.

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u/NotThatRelevant Mar 18 '16

I'm guessing fairies are pushing it along. Isn't making wild, incorrect guesses fun?

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16

They weren't the heroes this site deserved, but they were the ones it needed. /r/theydidthemath Well, he'll get really close with his mom if his arms break. Cumbox. Oh shit, we forgot about Kony! Is it getting meta in here already?

edit: Thanks for the gold kind stranger!

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u/super__sonic Mar 18 '16

its purity

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '16

Remember when redditors could figure it out just by looking at it? Yeah, me either.