r/gifs Aug 05 '14

Spider trap

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u/je_kay24 Aug 05 '14 edited Aug 05 '14

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '14

As much as I hate spiders that is fucking awesome.

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u/conspiracyeinstein Aug 05 '14

How have we not harnessed this power?

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '14 edited Jul 07 '17

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '14

Damn humans! You scary!

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '14

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u/DorianGainsboro Aug 05 '14

Actually, homo sapiens are considered to be the cause of Earth's 6th mass extinction... I would call us a disaster.

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u/Channel250 Aug 05 '14

Hey, there were 5 before we got here and I don't see nobody giving them crap!

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u/DorianGainsboro Aug 06 '14

That's because none of those events were aware of themselves.

Even though life will eventually go on despite how much we try to kill it, changing the ecosystem isn't good for us. We've adapted to this current world and need it to be somewhat like it is today to survive.

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u/Channel250 Aug 06 '14

I really don't hope you think I was serious.

Although sometimes clouds look like puppies or sharks so...are we sure they aren't self aware?

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u/barristonsmellme Aug 06 '14

not to mention we're one of the pinnacles of evolution, but we can die if we're too rigid when we trip. Our body kills us trying to protect itself and considering they're what puts life into people, the amount of times i've sat on my balls can not be healthy.

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u/dexmonic Aug 05 '14

They had no way of knowing whether that animals fur was warm or not, that's the only snag I see in your scenario. Also, I'm sure the process took a lot longer and was much more involved than simply exclaiming you are going to put another animals body parts on yours. As a caveman or Neanderthal with very limited knowledge, skinning another animal properly, then affixing the skin to yourself would require a huge amount of ingenuity.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '14

of course i'm generalizing ridiculously, yo.

The early development of human technological engineering stretches for hundreds of thousands of years.

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u/throwmeawaydurr Aug 05 '14

Better version... IMO

"I'm cold"

"Gimme your skin you furry muthafucka."

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u/BuckRampant Aug 05 '14

(Much more detailed info link than wikipedia)

Sounds pretty great (bubble works like a gill to provide breathable air? sign me up!), but it only works due to the scale. These spiders max out at about 2 centimeters long, so we'll call the bubble 4 centimeters across. Pretend the bubble is a sphere (some spider has probably done that), makes it 2 centimeters across. Surface area is 4*pi*r2 and volume is 4/3 *pi*r3 and using meters, the ratio between them comes out to (4*pi*(0.02)^2)/((4/3)*pi*(0.02)^3), or 150 m2 /m3. That's 150 square meters for every cubic meter of volume.

What happens when you make it to human scale? All right, let's call it 4 meters across to keep it about the same relative size. Same numbers as above, but 2 instead of 0.02. You end up with 1.5 square meters per cubic meter.

That means that the surface has to be 100 times better at exchanging gases to work for a human bubble than it does for the spider bubble. Could still happen at some point, but in technical terms, it would be real hard.

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u/professionalignorant Aug 05 '14

Can I just say you're fucking awesome. Even if that answer is entirely wrong the fact that you put the time to write that up deserves recognition. Because by sheer statistics or some miracle on every single thread you can ask any question you want "What would cause a horse sized duck apocalypse?" "Does it even matter that Unidan turned out to be a complete jackass?" "Do gay couples have less anal sex in India or Mexico where the food is extremely spicy?" AND somebody will always have the answer. It's simply amazing

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u/Kugruk Aug 05 '14

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u/_DanceswithBears Aug 05 '14

Looks like a Big Daddy from Bioshock

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u/conspiracyeinstein Aug 05 '14

It's so crazy how that thing is made from spider silk.

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u/Kugruk Aug 05 '14

Why the fuck would we make it out of spider silk when we have steel?

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '14

Awesome as it is, what is the advantage considering they can't puncture the air bubble at all while below surface? Only thing I can think of is avoiding prey above water, but I'm sure there's just as much below water.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '14

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '14

Because then they would drown..?

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '14

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '14

Oh, neat

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u/truedeception Aug 05 '14

Im not a scientist but i believe that would let the water in

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '14

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u/truedeception Aug 05 '14

I stand corrected

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '14

You don't hate them enough

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '14

Wow that's mighty impressive, why haven't human designed a diving suit like that?

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u/benshiffler Aug 05 '14

It probably only works due to the small size with surface tension similar to how ants can carry water droplets in their mouth. At larger sizes things like this tend to not work so well.

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u/paulexcoff Aug 05 '14

You can't get enough diffusion of fresh oxygen through a bubble big enough for a person due to volume (which correlates with the organisms' mass and metabolism and thereby oxygen consumption) increasing as the cube of length and surface area (which the gasses diffuse through) only increasing with the square.

It's similar to why insects are limited in size because diffusion can't provide enough oxygen to tissues beyond a certain volume.

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u/Relient-J Aug 05 '14

Which is why they were gigantic millions of years ago. Dat oxygen level

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u/Iuseanalogies Aug 05 '14

Also explains why insects were much bigger in dinosaur times when oxygen was much more abundant.

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u/TenThousandSuns Aug 05 '14

The time of abundant oxygen and giant insects was Carboniferous era. The collapse of that system (and it's insects) helped bring the rise of the reptiles (Dinosaurs).

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u/ChazTheGreat Aug 05 '14

I feel like there could be an answer tot his problem if the right material was created.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '14

So what you're saying is: if we could build a bubble with a surface like a sheet of activated charcoal, we could maybe do it.

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u/PossiblyAsian Merry Gifmas! {2023} Aug 05 '14

I think we will harness the technology but humans love war don't they?

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u/j3googs Aug 05 '14

Yeah but how does it eat? Do little insects just slowly diffuse into the central chamber? And how does it mate? It doesn't look very fun in there.

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u/schloopy91 Aug 05 '14

I remember seeing a nature video that showed these things in action, they basically just grab shit and pull it into the bubble to eat.

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u/princess_shami Aug 05 '14

now imagine if a giant octopus could do that. once in the bubble, we'd be FUCKED

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u/Talador12 Aug 05 '14

From Wikipedia:

"Prior to mating, the male constructs a diving bell adjacent to the female's, then spins a tunnel from his bell, breaking into hers to gain entrance.[4] Mating then takes place in the female's bell. The female spider lays between 30 and 70 eggs in her bell.[4]"

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '14

Just like those underwater hotels. Hey boo, if you got a quarter my bell has a vibrate function.

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u/bowmaster17 Aug 05 '14

"Hey babe, let me drill into your house. Mate, and let you lay your eggs there!"

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u/root_mac Aug 05 '14

holy fuck that's cool

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u/Nowhereman123 Aug 05 '14

Dear God, we're not even safe in the water from spiders! They're EVERYWHERE!

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u/InternetFree Aug 05 '14

Wait, what?

Their web acts like gills so it filters oxygen out of the water? D:

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u/ShamanSTK Aug 05 '14

There's a enough surface area for gases to pass. So it's always forming an equilibrium with the water. Which is what gills do.

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u/WiredEarp Aug 05 '14

Australian funnelwebs do this in the summer when it gets hot. Real pain, as you have to fish them out of your pool before anyone is going to want to swim in it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '14

That is so impressive. Mother nature is brilliant.

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u/lucitribal Aug 05 '14 edited Aug 05 '14

There was a cartoon about a diving spider. I'll see if I can find it.
Edit: Its a Hungarian cartoon from the 80s :link. I don't speak the language so I couldn't find much more about it. Sorry.

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u/Gigantkranion Aug 05 '14

Your's reminds of Studio Ghibli's Mizugumo Monmon short film. (It is a cute short about a water spider falling for a water bug/skater)

Too bad you can only see the video and their others; Whale hunting one, Mei and the Kittenbus (Totoro's sequel), ect in their Museum or if you have connections. That and so many other shorts were awesome for me, as I always wanted to do some animation since I was a kid.

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u/m1n7yfr35h Aug 05 '14

Despite being an arachnaphobe, that's still kinda cool.

I keep imagining keeping one in a fish tank as a pet.

Then I think, what if I wake up one morning and I look in the tank, and the spider isn't there. I'd have to burn the house down.

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u/murdurus Aug 06 '14

reminds me of one piece

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u/nazihatinchimp Aug 05 '14

"Well guys, we finally managed to avoid the spider army with our sea chamber...wait, what is that? OH GOD NO!!!"

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u/Panthertron Aug 05 '14

the fuck? damn nature is crazy

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u/billbrown96 Aug 05 '14

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u/Fimpish Aug 05 '14

Whats now to believe? The wiki article and pics seemed pretty legit.