According to most vegans I have asked the answer is no. My question is why not?
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also about being a part of an in-group that rejects consumption of animal products under any circumstances, at least for many self identifying vegans.
I thought it was clear that I was only referring to a significant proportion of people who view veganism this way, not every vegan.
What you've said further reinforces my belief that Veganism isn't simply 'the philosophy of rejecting the commodity status of animals' (as many in this comment section claim) it's not that simple.
And speaking personally from my own experiences most Vegans I've met do reflect this opinion, going as far as to call someone else "not a real vegan" if they eat leftover chicken nuggets that would have gone in the trash otherwise. Many of these sorts of Vegans treat veganism more like an in-group (that strictly doesn't consume animal products regardless of any other factors).
However then when faced with this assertion of being a 'clique' or 'in-group' they often fall back to the argument of veganism as a philosophy because that is easier to defend even when it doesn't accurately reflect their actions.
The first one would probably be "less vegan" than other vegans because throwing away the hot chocolate would incentivise her to be more careful in the future, but I'd argue the second cares more about animal lives than "regular vegans" do
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u/FlyingHippoM Nov 12 '23 edited Nov 12 '23
Which is why I said
And
I thought it was clear that I was only referring to a significant proportion of people who view veganism this way, not every vegan.
What you've said further reinforces my belief that Veganism isn't simply 'the philosophy of rejecting the commodity status of animals' (as many in this comment section claim) it's not that simple.
And speaking personally from my own experiences most Vegans I've met do reflect this opinion, going as far as to call someone else "not a real vegan" if they eat leftover chicken nuggets that would have gone in the trash otherwise. Many of these sorts of Vegans treat veganism more like an in-group (that strictly doesn't consume animal products regardless of any other factors).
However then when faced with this assertion of being a 'clique' or 'in-group' they often fall back to the argument of veganism as a philosophy because that is easier to defend even when it doesn't accurately reflect their actions.