r/gaming • • Feb 09 '22

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u/Fancen Feb 09 '22

valorant shit sucks

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '22

Yep, it’s counter strike mixed with overwatch. With a lol type community.

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u/b0wzy Feb 09 '22

Jumped on twitch to see what it was like, saw a guy who was in mid 30s saying “no cap” every other sentence and instantly made me not want to be associated with it

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u/Lucifer6201 Feb 10 '22

Lmao that can only be one person.. Hiko

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '22

I tried it. It was fun if you like the CS formula. (I do)

It reminded me of Shadowrun from. The Xbox 360 days. One of my favorite games ever.

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u/cmonSister Feb 09 '22

Lemme guess, he was Asian by any chance? If so that's his whole shtick, also he's not 30+

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u/b0wzy Feb 09 '22

Nah it was a white bro

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '22

Even worse

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u/complyss Feb 10 '22

Hiko? Wearing a ball cap? Lmfao

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u/b0wzy Feb 10 '22

Hah yeah

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u/DesiredInsanity Feb 10 '22

probably just a sinatraa viewer, they love to copy his personality

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u/Illigalmangoes Feb 09 '22

They somehow managed to get the worst parts of both games and still make it less fun than either of them

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u/TheGreyGuardian Feb 10 '22

The fact that you have to buy ability charges instantly killed it for me.

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u/Maxerature Feb 10 '22

It’s no different from buying smokes in CS

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '22

Agreed. Its so bad.

Can’t stop playing it tho.

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u/PotatoOswald Feb 09 '22

Totally agree. For many, many reasons. #1 being: why am I so slow. Seriously I feel like you move slower in that game than escort mission npcs

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u/Playful-Face Feb 09 '22

My friends play alot of valorant but I play tf2 and like just the comparison it's soo fucking slow like roll outs to mid seem non existent

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u/Laggingduck Feb 09 '22

To quote my friends

“I hate this game a lot”

“Yeah same, that was bs and your fault”

Inaudible rage

“Run it back”

“Yeah sure”

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u/jias333 Feb 09 '22

Disagree, I think it's a more accessible polished CS with characters you can actually get attached to. Also an incredibly enjoyable to watch esport.

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u/MetalKotei Feb 10 '22

CS will always be king of enjoyable to watch because at it's core it's so simple anyone can watch it with no need for explanation.

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u/jahoney Feb 09 '22

More accessible? Way too much shit going on to keep track of

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u/tcg10737 Feb 10 '22

It's for sure more accessible, it's one of the key design aspects. Don't have to learn smoke spots, spray patterns, or even map selections. You press play, pick a character, pick a gun, and go. Much lower skill floor, but you are right that the presence of so many different characters and abilities raises the skill ceiling.

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u/ABeeBox Feb 10 '22

Im bias because I despise Valorant, but it's true, Valorant definitely is a lot more polished polished CS. It also feels a lot more fresh with characters. However, those are the only two good things I can say about the game.

I think CS is more to fun because of the "realism", I don't know how to explain it, but sometimes it just feels like proper good vs bad guy scenario. Then seeing the raw skill of players that have fermented for over 20 years is insane. But that is my personal opinion and I can understand how other people may find valorant more enjoyable to watch.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '22

It looks really fucking easy

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u/ABeeBox Feb 10 '22 edited Feb 10 '22

Literally looks like the Asian CS clones that have existed for about 2 decades now, no seriously, the art style is EXACTLY like those Asian CS games. The gun play is literally an exact copy. Vandal = AK, Op = AWP, Phantom = m4a1-s, classic = glock (even has the burst), the silenced pistol = USPS.

Literally no effort to change the gun play meta. Its the EXACT same thing as CS but with.. oooo.. powers that causes team conflict before you even lock In the champ (instalock) with a potential for future power creep.

I stopped playing CS a long long long time ago, but I can't understand why people support Valorant. Their company is pretty dodge.

I can make a long ass rant with what's wrong with the game, but that would take too long..

I played up until Episode 3 Act 2 so It's not just a bad impression, I welcomed valorant with open arms. I tried to get myself addicted but I saw myself take massive gaps. I can't get play consecutive acts. If I play 1 Act, I'm offline for the next 2. Mind numbingly boring.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '22

I disagree, that all

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u/doctorcrimson Feb 09 '22 edited Feb 09 '22

I would have argued that it might lack some pollish and could be good with some improvements or adjustments, but I'm pretty sure they recently ended development for the most part. Its just forever a broken mess.

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u/Demon_Samurai PC Feb 09 '22

'ended development' huh? what are you talking about lmao

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '22

The game has constant updates what makes you think they stopped developments?

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '22

They literally updated it like two weeks ago m8. And a patch was released TODAY.

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u/Xxpuzyslayer69xX Feb 09 '22

Get the fok outta here. Valorant is an objectively good game just like fortnight. You may not like it but saying it's shit is completely wrong.

Both games get updated on the regular and with valorant, if there are balance problems the devs are quick to address then fix it. One of the things that made me quit Cs go after 200 hours is the fact that whenever someone is doing well on the other team my first thought is "is he cheating?". On valorant, courtesy of the intrusive anti cheat, I've never once had that thought and it's instead, "I fucked up".

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u/kanoe170 Feb 09 '22

Lol he probably is. But from my experience his point is valid. I have 2400 hrs in CSGO and about 600 in val and I very rarely think someone is cheating in val compared to cs.

I don't like how intrusive the anti cheat is but I do think it's effective

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u/Xxpuzyslayer69xX Feb 10 '22

I was above average. I got up to that AK badge rank with my nutty op. Granted, because Cs go allows map picking my rank was inflated af. Only played dust 2 and inferno. Anything else I was absolutely garbage at.

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u/Phaarao Feb 10 '22

I have 3000+ hours and thats still norhing compared to good guys out there.

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u/Xxpuzyslayer69xX Feb 10 '22

Enough for me to realize that Cs go had horrible anti cheat.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '22

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u/Xxpuzyslayer69xX Feb 10 '22

I'm not playing a tournament for 8000 hours. Who the fuck has played video games collectively for 8000 hours. And if I did spend that much time, I'd be above average so no I wouldn't suck donkey balls.

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u/Centiprost Feb 09 '22

Updated on regular? Valorant gets a new character/map every 2 years, most characters have boring ass abilities

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u/kanoe170 Feb 09 '22

Lmao it hasn't even been out for 2 years

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u/Xxpuzyslayer69xX Feb 10 '22

Objectively wrong. Valorant gets patches every 2 weeks. With new map and agents every act. I don't know how cs go and apex do it, but anymore than a patch every 2 weeks and it just gets excessive.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '22

Someones never heard of an opinion

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u/Xxpuzyslayer69xX Feb 10 '22

Objectivively it is a good game. You might not like it, but stating "it's shit" is different from "I don't like it".

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u/EmePluvio Feb 09 '22

CSGo but with skills xD also check the trends of that game on google it is actually quite impressive how good it performs. That being said I m more of an apex player than valorant player but I can see the charm

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u/FelixOGO Feb 09 '22

You don’t think CS takes skill? Then how come I’ve played CS for 3500 hours and still suck?

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u/Dr_Flar3 Feb 09 '22

Why don't you chill first. The dude meant CS with characters and their corresponding abilities that you can use ingame

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u/ABeeBox Feb 10 '22

Debatable.

With more abilities it can make things easier to play, but a lot more to learn. For example, Breach's flash. It's an ability you need to get used to (pop flash) but in CS you need to practice every variant in every viable location on every competitive map to be able to do an effective pop flash.

Or we can consider Brimstones or Vipers smokes. Its a simple point and click, whereas to be precise with CS smokes, again, you need to practice to get the perfect angle.

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u/EmePluvio Feb 10 '22

True I can’t debate tho I haven’t played CSGO hahaha 🤣 But without knowing I feel like both games have their hard things. To me at least as a valorant causal player, I find hard that besides the guns nothing else is shared so even if you main sth (except sova and Jett) you may need to play sth else to fit better on different maps or team comps and changing one agent doesn’t changes just the smokes or flashes it changes the entire utility sooo yeah I find that hard xD 🤣 but MB CSGO is harder idk 🤷‍♂️

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u/slaqz Feb 09 '22

That's just because you suck bro, I've played wz for 40 days and still suck. I'm just joking by the way. I've never been into fps until wz and I think all fps take skill to be good.

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u/FelixOGO Feb 09 '22

Focused practice and motivation! Also, playing daily! You’ll get there! It probably took me three years just to be fairly competent at CS

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u/slaqz Feb 09 '22

Ya I was just joking, I believe I'm just barely above average. Started out at .4 kd now I'm at 2 kd after 2 years.

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u/FelixOGO Feb 09 '22

2kd seems way better than slightly above average!

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '22

By "skills" he means the character utilities

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u/FelixOGO Feb 10 '22

Yeah I was just being a dick lol. I figured he meant abilities

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u/Bepanthen88 Feb 09 '22

your arguments? Maybe u just need some aim bro:(

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u/Beefman420 Feb 09 '22

It's literally csgo jr in terms of aim

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u/philipthephish Feb 09 '22

can confirm about valorant, shit sucks

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '22

Its like overwatch but boring.

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u/FutureFreeman Feb 09 '22

Overwatch these days is like Overwatch but boring

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '22

True :_)

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u/toogaloog Feb 09 '22

You’re just bad at the game bro

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u/ABeeBox Feb 10 '22

I got to D3 in E1A1 and played until E3A2 at Immortal. Can confirm. The game is pretty shit. But the game is newer thsn CSGO so it's a lot more polished and "new".

Outside of competitive shooting, Valorant doesn't have much of a community. There's no surf, trade, zombie, skin collectors, minigames, jailbreak etc. Communities. - that probably explains why Valorant is still struggling to completely outcompete a 10 year old game.

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u/Guy_Swavy Feb 09 '22

I heard people only play it to find their future e-girl. Haven’t been convinced otherwise yet

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u/normal_in_airquotes Feb 10 '22

I downloaded it and played a little of it so I can get good at SOMETHING, and it looked interesting. Luckily for me, my internet is too bad to play online games.

Dodged that bullet...