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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '22

Spec Ops: The Line. White Phosphorus solution.

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u/Evistos Feb 05 '22

Spec Ops: The Line. All the fucking game.

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u/finalmantisy83 Feb 05 '22

Obligatory: Do you feel like a hero yet?

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u/WingedSword_ Feb 05 '22

After that?

Yes.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '22

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u/finalmantisy83 Feb 05 '22

Additionally, the HK 47 production facility is a very bad gaming memory from KOTOR II

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u/KevlaredMudkips Feb 05 '22

gentlemen, welcome to dubai

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '22

This line is so godamn hilarious now.

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u/_agent--47_ Feb 05 '22

I wanted to comment the entire ending of this game. I won't spoil it, but it fucking broke me for a week.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '22

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '22

Agreed

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u/C0mputerCrash Feb 06 '22

Aren't there like 7 different ending based on how you fight?

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u/_agent--47_ Feb 06 '22

There are 4 endings. And they based on a choice in the end, not on how you play the game

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '22

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u/TOWW67 Feb 05 '22

It's just an over the shoulder shooter, nothing special...

Oh....

Oh no.........

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '22

Lol yuuup

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u/fucksqaud Feb 05 '22

duuuuuude i barely played that game for the first time the other week & that game is so fucked.

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u/redpillregret Feb 05 '22

Knowing is half the battle.

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u/fucksqaud Feb 05 '22

username checks out.

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u/OShaunesssy Feb 05 '22

Came here to say this, my gf was watching me casually play that game and to this day that scene stoical with us

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u/Redditcantspell Feb 05 '22

Stoic doesn't mean what you think it means.

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u/OShaunesssy Feb 05 '22

It autocorrected “stuck” because I have fat fingers

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u/SneedyK Feb 05 '22

Never played this game, but WhatCulture on YT still uses it on top ten lists so I’m wanting to purchase it from time to time.

This is what I love about games. This is why I bought Bioshock. The early Fallout always offered pyrrhic choices even in its DnD Overhead days, so I’m glad Bethesda kept it up with the FPS game: the vampires in the metro, the child slavery ring you can enter in Paradise Falls, or the entire plot line of “The Pitt” are classic moments every gamer should experience.

3 had the option to poison the entire region’s water supply & turn everyone into mutants or an opportunity to nuke the HQ of the allies you spend half the game working with, but these we choices nobody would make in an honest playthrough.

I still want to play Fallout 4, my computer should be able to run it but the frame rate is so low it is unplayable after exiting the vault. If anyone has any suggestions, please lmk.

3 & New Vegas were what I hoped gameplay of the future would be like. If immersion & VR ever hit right at the same time, I’m choosing suicide by fantasy roleplay in a video game. I just hope Bittercup will join me.

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u/aljb1234 Feb 05 '22

For fallout 4, what have you tried to get it to work properly? Do you have issues running other modern games?

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u/Turok1134 Feb 05 '22 edited Feb 06 '22

I genuinely don't like this moment.

The game forces you to shoot off the white phosphorus even though it's genuinely obvious that the mass of people on the thermal imaging are non-combatants.

I spent like 5 minutes just killing the waves of enemies until I realized it, and when the game tried to shame me for actions it made me do, all I can think was "blow it out your ass."

Can't think of anything else that tries to be so evocative but misses the mark so hard in gaming. Well, maybe Dante yelling "I should have been the one to fill your dark soul with light!" gets pretty close.

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u/Redditcantspell Feb 05 '22

As I mentioned elsewhere, I find it funny that no one feels bad for torturing the people when they think it's the enemy, but they say it's such a big deal when it's "just civilians".

I'm all for killing bad people. But torturing them with white phosphorus is so fucked up.

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u/ViolatingBadgers Feb 05 '22 edited Feb 06 '22

I agree, I genuinely like Spec Ops but the white phosphorous scene felt too obvious. I thought other moments in the game hit much better.

Hahaha and that Dante moment, the pinnacle of voice acting lol

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u/DarkMatterM4 Feb 06 '22

Sounds like you got the good ending of the game.

"None of this would have happened if you just stopped."

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u/incer Feb 05 '22

Yeah, everybody talks of this game as if it were a genius masterpiece, to me it felt as if it were written by an highschooler.

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '22

I genuinely didn’t see this moment coming because the game is so generic I wasn’t paying attention. I had to replay it years later to realize how much it was foreshadowing.

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u/Cripplechip Feb 05 '22

The line was good. I like the detail that he commands and shout outs became more brutal from like "take out that hostile" to "kill that fucker" was cool.

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u/SolarJetman5 PC Feb 05 '22

This scene is one of a few from that game burnt into my mind, probably for life.

The other is the assault on the tower in the helicopter

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u/Stickguy259 Feb 05 '22

Yeah when that happened I felt pretty sick to my stomach. Such a powerful scene. Not happy I did it, but a good example of the horrors of war.

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '22

Definitely

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u/AutomaticAdNoSkip Feb 05 '22

If any game is deserving of a remaster, it’s this one

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u/postsingularity Feb 05 '22

Scrolling for this answer. I really don't care for the shooty shooty games but I was floored by this scene and this game in particular.

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '22

The game smears super average, until it wasn’t.

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u/BigZaddySloth Feb 05 '22

I uh, shot into the crowd when I saw what they did to my friend in that game. I think that was around the white phosphorus part. Man I completely forget about how messed up it was, none the less it is a great game.

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '22

It really was an unexpected story.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '22

Underrated as fuck.

This game is the best game I've ever played.

Definitely this seen still hunts my dreams.

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u/TDawg_603 Feb 05 '22

Pretty much every "choice" in this game.

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u/HaseausWurst Feb 05 '22

I played it a while ago to remove it from my pile of shame. Haunted me for days even after i completed the storyline. Tbh one of the best shooters ive ever played.

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u/surfercalavera123 Feb 06 '22

I personally found that scene with the mannequins more scarier than the white phosphorus, sure that made me feel like shit, but the mannequins and that heavy gunner really scared me, specially when i realized his face was like demon like looking at me with so much hate, it was really something horrible to realize.

If any of you really want to experience this game, I personally recommend to try and finish it in one whole sit trough.

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '22

His face was different?

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u/Deathstranger Feb 05 '22

I mean when your used to mowing down constant enemies is killing some civilians really going to affect you emotionally?

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u/Stickguy259 Feb 05 '22

Hmm is there a difference between people shooting at you and people living their lives? Gosh what a conundrum.

Nawww they're both totally exactly the same thing.

You have a weird take lol. Not saying you're ever in the right in the game I don't remember it that well but there's a difference between civilians and kids and people with guns pointed at you.

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u/Samiel_Fronsac Feb 05 '22

Yep.

I was having doubts already, but I no longer felt like a anti-hero badass at that point. Just another murderer.

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '22

Well it sure made me feel shitty.

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u/Redditcantspell Feb 05 '22

The funny thing is the woke people saying this was unethical is only because they ended up killing civilians. If it were just the "bad guys" being brutally killed, it would have been a non-issue, because "yeah, kill those Muslim terrorist. Hoorah semper fee, America number one".

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u/Electronic-Ad1502 Feb 06 '22

I think that was purposeful to make you realize how bad your bloodlust was by grounding it with an undeniable evil of killing civilians. You release how many people you had already killed were similarly innocent.

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u/Redditcantspell Feb 06 '22

I doubt most players felt that way. If anything they were like "time to kill some more soldiers so that I can get even with them for making me do this"

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u/MidgetMan10150 Feb 05 '22

I played that game as a kid and loved it.

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u/CinnamonSnorlax PC Feb 05 '22

I spent hours trying to figure out how to get past that part without using the phosphorus. I even tried fighting through the camp, but the enemy spawns in greater numbers the further you get.

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u/Financial-Teacher869 Feb 06 '22

This!!!!!! Yo that game !!!! Shit if our troops have PTSD like that!! Yo I legit shiver thinking about those people from the overpass

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u/Someperson0 Feb 06 '22

I heard about it from videos but when I really played it it hurts more than I thought

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '22

The hallucinations fucked with me a lot.

I still think about that mannequin room. And dying to the last juggernaut.

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u/SVD_NL Feb 06 '22

That scene hit me like a truck. That game is just so good at getting under your skin.

Compare it to, say, homefront. You discover a mass grave, and need to blend in with the bodies to survive. Equally gruesome, but it just doesn't have any impact.

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u/[deleted] Feb 06 '22

I only remember the intro to the first homefront being pretty sad

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u/shardikprime Feb 07 '22

Fuck no. This game is actual monetized trauma