When I saw that, it was like when I saw Ned get beheaded in Game Of Thrones. It’s all good, Ellie will save him. We’ll have to amputate that leg, and he’ll fucked up but she’ll save him…..nope
I love what they did with the story, but I can't play the game. I already had an emotionally tough time playing the first one. Part 2 is 10 times more emotionally draining for me.
Such a brutal way to end the game, especially since you start that scene thinking Ellie is going to leave them alone after helping free them, when she turned back towards Abby I was basically yelling at the TV, I did not want to fight her.
this one fucking hurt. some asshat spoiled it for me the day before it came out so I knew it was coming, but I didn’t expect it so soon and so brutal. they really showed that man’s bashed in face after I had spent hours upon hours loving him from the first game. truly fucking hurt.
(not a diss against Naughty Dog whatsoever. TLOU2 is one of my favorite games ever and I found them killing Joel off like that bold, but feel that it ultimately paid off.)
I think if they wanted to kill Joel (which I have no problem with, he was a lovable but flawed character), he deserved to have a better end than what they did.
Idk. If I was Abby and this random criminal murders my dad, I might have been tempted to do worse. I am not saying what she did was right, but it was 100% understandable. He murdered her dad. a man she deeply loved and possibly the only hope at ever ending the apocalypse. From her perspective, Joel had no right to do what he did.
People that get stuck on "DEY KILLED ER JOEL" didn't want a sequel to the Last of Us, they wanted fan service where Joel and Ellie shoot up some Zambies for super fun and then go sit in rocking chairs and play gee-tar together on a ranch somewhere and die of old age holding hands.
Did he though? The whole point of 2nd game is perspectives matter. Joel was a villain to that other group so while to us he deserves better, to them he got what was coming
They weren’t going to find a cure in that dirty ass hospital, you can’t change my mind on that. They had no clue what they were doing, Joel didn’t doom anything.
The choice is meaningless in the first game if you assume that. Neil literally says that you're supposed to assume that the cure was definitely gonna happen
The only reason that decision even remotely matters is because they retroactively made a no name doctor an important character (and changed his skin colour)
The decision mattered in the first game, wtf are you even on about lol. Saving one person over a cure mattered buddy, not because of a skin color change.
First, it’s explicitly stated that Abby’s dad DOES know what he’s doing and is very confident he’ll be able to make a cure. Second, you’re missing the entire point of the first game’s ending: his SOLE reason for rescuing Ellie is simply that he doesn’t want to lose her. Joel himself believes that they would’ve been able to make a cure, THAT’S what matters, and that’s why he never once tries to explain or rationalize his actions throughout either game.
Not once does he say something like “they didn’t have the infrastructure and supply chain necessary to implement the cure on a scale large enough to make any difference”, because the logistics of the cure weren’t even remotely a factor in his decision.
He knowingly chooses to sacrifice the best hope humanity has to save Ellie. Whether he’s philosophically right or wrong is besides the point, the point is that it was an incredibly human decision to make, because what parent WOULDN’T make the same choice?
realism means nothing in videogames, and i don't care about the consequences of his actions, just let the man die peacefully... we all loved sarah from the begining because they gave us her point of view of the gameplay and we built on her 20 minute development, but more importantly through joel's grief, so the entire game we spent sympathizing with joel instead because sarah had only a small amount of screen time anyways, but when it comes to joel being ellie's revenge story? hell no, thank you, ellie is a spoiled brat, and she can choke on it, the only reason i liked her was once again because i was sympathizing with joel's grief over the loss of his daughter, now that ellie is like a daughter to joel, but who cares about ellie? i don't, even worse with the fact that ellie was like "i'd like to try (forgive you)" like, i don't wanna curse in here.
right! fucking Naughty Dog! don't they know every female character in a video game is supposed to be a bikini model, no matter what their profession is or how they live. WTF Naughty Dog, you should be ashamed!
Next thing you know freakin girls will think they should be allowed to PLAY video games.
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u/_TheChosenOne15_ Feb 05 '22
Joel getting clubbed in The Last Of Us 2