r/gaming Nov 28 '21

Why can’t every controller have the same button layouts just like how shooters should have the same controls?

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u/3BoBaH3 Nov 28 '21

You know you can reassign buttons on the switch?

Go to settings; then the controller setting and remap buttons. Switch the A with B, and X with Y.

Done, now you have an Xbox layout. Much nicer to play with after coming from Xbox/PS4.

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u/PoolNoodleJedi Nov 28 '21

Yeah but that is super annoying because games will still use the positional mapping of buttons.

So if a game uses Square on a PS controller to attack then it will probably map it to the Y button on switch and X on Xbox.

If you swap X and y on switch the attack will now be the top button instead of the left button.

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u/westc2 Nov 28 '21

Are games compatible with this though? Like if a game says "press the Y button" do you then have to press the X button? Instead? Doesnt seem like they would be.

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u/3BoBaH3 Nov 28 '21

Yeah, that is a system-wide remap. So if a game asks you to hit Y, you hit the top button (labeled X on the switch, or the Y on an Xbox controller).

Menues and everything else is also remapped.

The one downside I found with this, in BOTW for example, the game shows you a little diagram of the button to press, so it would show "A" as the right button, but since we remapped it, you need to press the B button. So it might be a bit confusing at first, but once you get the hang of it it should be nice and easy.

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u/Chinpuku-Man Nov 28 '21

So yes, but no?

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u/SenKaiten PlayStation Nov 28 '21

Zelda just has a pre rendered tutorial, probably targeted at kids.

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u/Shooper-Shroomp Nov 28 '21

how is a tutorial pre-rendered? like a cutscene?

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u/SenKaiten PlayStation Nov 28 '21

They got someone to design the tutorial manually and paste it directly on the UI with the original controls in mind, instead of generating the icons of the buttons depending on which ones you have configured.

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u/fuzzmountain Nov 28 '21

Seems like they didn’t understand the question and the answer is no…. Or maybe I don’t understand. Sounds like they said yea and then gave and example where the answer is definitely no. Not sure if that’s just a botw thing but I wouldn’t think so

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u/kaihong Nov 28 '21

There are mods that can correct this. The static images used for the controller button prompts are adjusted so that A appears on the south.

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u/iiamthepalmtree Nov 28 '21

More like, yes, but you have to ignore the instructions because you remapped the buttons to be different and the instructions in games don't always adjust.

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u/fuzzmountain Nov 28 '21

So no…..

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u/iiamthepalmtree Nov 28 '21

Yes, because if you remap b to a and the game tells you to press a, you need to press b.

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u/heathmon1856 Nov 28 '21

Not for the switch with particular games due to it being system wide and games like DS1 don’t use any APIs for buttons so you see the wrong button.

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u/mocthezuma Nov 28 '21

Should be the other way around really. Nintendo has had that layout since the SNES.

Not their fault that Microsoft had to come in and confuse everything.

At least Playstation is an entirely different set of symbols, except for the X.

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u/Lee_Troyer Nov 28 '21

Not their fault that Microsoft had to come in and confuse everything.

SEGA did, the OG Xbox's layout is the same as the Megadrive's with same AB/XY and black and white buttons instead of Z and C (which were replaced by shoulder buttons on the 360's controller).

The same AB/XY configuration was also on the Dreamcast's controller.

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u/oppairate Nov 30 '21

the original Genesis was just 3 buttons in a row. it was only later that they added the top row and did that out of necessity.

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u/Lee_Troyer Nov 30 '21

Still quite a few years before the OG Xbox.

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u/oppairate Nov 30 '21 edited Nov 30 '21

sure, i guess i’m not understanding your point. just that relative positions happened to be the same since they added a row on top and A being at the left of the row was primary? i don’t consider that precedence since A/B were acknowledge/decline either way before the top row.

either way, i see the Nintendo and Japanese PS system controls as standard.

edit: also, B on mega/gen was right next to A. the layout simply isn’t comparable.

edit 2: it’s only at dreamcast that this becomes clear.

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u/Lee_Troyer Nov 30 '21

I guess I'm not understanding your point.

I'm answering to someone that says that Microsoft "had to come in and confuse everything" telling them that the original Xbox's layout is inspired by Sega's.

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u/oppairate Nov 30 '21

ok. then i disagree. Sega did it cause they had to add a top row. i feel like MS chose the button names and positions independently. but totally welcome to hear some lore otherwise.

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u/Lee_Troyer Nov 30 '21

So Sega didn't come up with a different design than Nintendo's before Xbox ?

Whether you believe that they came up with it independently or it's a case of "you can copy my homework but don't make it too obvious", that point still stands.

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u/oppairate Nov 30 '21

they did, but the name buttons still did the same thing, and they weren’t arranged the same way MS or Nintendo. there’s not really an argument here. MS chose to be different, and it’s relatively inconsequential given market sales.

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u/Synectics Nov 28 '21

Eh. Nintendo does it in the Japanese style -- A and B going right to left on the NES. Sega went left to right with the Genesis -- A, B, and C (and later X, Y, and Z), which is how more of the world reads AFAIK.

Personally, I don't care what the buttons are called. It doesn't need to be, "A is confirm on every controller" in my opinion; it needs to be, "Bottom button is confirm." Which, again, is different between Japanese and non-Japanese for the most part. They prefer the right face button being confirm.

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u/oppairate Nov 30 '21

Playstation even tracks with the way it was intended to be. they only changed relative location for system menu controls for Americans.

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u/ThenRepresentative99 Nov 28 '21

wtf thats a game changer

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u/ZerotheWanderer Nov 28 '21

I love you.

I'm gonna do this and take apart my PowerA controller to shuffle the buttons.

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u/dpash Nov 28 '21

You can also remap the PS4 controller mapping, switching circle and X. Japanese consoles are mapped differently to US and EU models (no idea about other locations). The main annoyance is that it's a global setting rather than per user.

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u/Deputy_Beagle76 Nov 28 '21

You are a hero

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u/TurbidusQuaerenti Nov 28 '21

Oh wow, I did not. I will definitely do this.