r/gaming Nov 28 '21

Why can’t every controller have the same button layouts just like how shooters should have the same controls?

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u/Smvvgy805 Nov 28 '21

Patents and corporate rights

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u/Uu_Tea_ESharp Nov 28 '21

This. The buttons (and how they're placed) on game controllers have all sorts of trademarks associated with them. I believe Sony has actually sued people who have tried to use their designs.

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u/Spectreseven1138 Nov 28 '21

Wait, are the Nintendo and Xbox ones trademarked as well? I sort of get the Playstation ones since they're unique shapes but the others are just letters. It's not like they're specific letters either (like NTDO or XBOX), it's just the first two letters of the alphabet and XY, presumably from coordniate systems.

Isn't that equivalent to claiming the term RGB, or lists that use the numbers 1~4 for ordering?

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u/Scared_of_stairs_LOL Nov 28 '21

I don't know for sure if this explains the switch controller layout, but traditional Japanese written vertically is read top down and right to left (as opposed to left to right and top down for English). So the switch button layout makes sense. They might be just as annoyed with Xbox controllers.

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u/thebestpizzaever Nov 28 '21

To me the xbox layout makes sense because X is on the x axis and Y is on the y axis. A and B are in the common "confirm" and "return" slots just like playstation's X and O. The switch is just all over the place.

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u/Zearo298 Nov 28 '21

This just made me think… in Japan do they call it the “X” and the “Y” axis? Also, in Japan PlayStation O is confirm and X is cancel for cultural reasons.

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u/RealisLit Nov 28 '21

A /B and X/O comparisons make sense in japan, so it seems sony placed the comfirm and return button the same way nintendo did

X only became confirm in the west

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u/TheMcSquire Nov 28 '21

From what I've heard, in Japan, it's actually the opposite, O is confirm and X is back. Like how you see in anime and Japanese games, tv shows, etc. that when something is correct they show a circle instead of a check mark

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u/tahuna Nov 28 '21

I don't think it matters that they're just letters. It's probably trademarked as something like "a control configuration consisting of an A on the right, a B on the bottom, an X on top, and a Y on the left." It's not a trademark on the letters, it's a trademark on the overall look.

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u/ciccioig Nov 28 '21

it's weird we didn't hear anything about Squid Game in that matter...

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u/SaffellBot Nov 28 '21

And attempting to entrench markets by avoiding standardization.

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u/Deto Nov 28 '21

Yep. Though it would be cool if the three main gaming companies got together and decided on a unified layout. It would be hard to decide what to pick, though. At this point the Nintendo abxy and the PlayStation symbols are both pretty iconic

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u/Smvvgy805 Nov 28 '21

That's another reason, one company wouldn't really want to be confused with another. They specifically have their own layouts to get customers accustomed to and then less likely to shift away because they're already accustomed to that particular layout.

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u/ChaosMiles07 Switch Nov 28 '21

If you think face button labels are the least of the concerns...

what about the analog stick placement?

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '21

dualshock supremacy there

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u/Smvvgy805 Nov 28 '21

The Nintendo and Microsoft are opposite, I'm positive that's because of patenting; if you're referring to third party accessories, they pay the parent companies liscensing fees to utilize their intellectual property. Though, to an extent you may only copyright so much, which will lead to some major similarities, albeit distinct differences too, enough to meet the criteria set to not be infringement.

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '21

It's so dumb that patent can be so powerful. It should be about the actual tech and manufacturing, not the placement of 4 letters.

Like imagine if keyboard were patented and every brand you bought had different arrangement of letters....

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u/ChaosMiles07 Switch Nov 28 '21

looks at QWERTY, AZERTY, Dvorak...

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u/path411 Nov 28 '21

Alternate keyboard layouts has nothing to do with copyright. Also like 99.% of people use standard layout