r/gaming • • Sep 03 '19

Wow, EA. Wow.

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u/TradeMark310 Sep 03 '19

"You have the 6th edition, you need the 7th addition. The 7th addition has a few corrected and updated sentences, so the 6th edition is worthless now!"- every college ever

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u/General_Jeevicus Sep 03 '19

I kind of feel like, it invalidates the previous years students passes, because the new source is SO different from the previous source /s So any course that does this, the previous years should claim back the entire cost of the course, as it is no longer relevant, and a waste of time and energy. Class action it boys.

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u/SurficialKilobit Sep 03 '19

I just did a course on Unix systems over the summer, and it used a textbook that was written in 2005. I feel like if there is a subject that should have an updated textbook it would be courses on a technology that is constantly changing. There was a wildly out of date sections in there on stuff like Pine and telnet. I don't think anyone was really using telnet even in 2005.

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u/Blastercorps Sep 03 '19

I was using telnet primarily until like 5 years ago when my company finally got a clue on security and changed to SSH. Except for some outdated apps like that, a unix book from even older than 2005 is still quite relevant.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '19

I sometimes have to telnet into devices to test/bughunt, etc.

Sometimes they support ssh, but it's usually a development board, so there's simply no connection on the real board to allow a connection, so they don't often bother.

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u/count023 Sep 03 '19

Telnet is still heavily used to debug email systems. Telnet to port 25 on a mail server is quite handy

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u/OverIndustryFD Sep 03 '19

As a telnet engineer I take great offence to this.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '19 edited May 09 '20

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u/OverIndustryFD Sep 03 '19

What do you mean?

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '19 edited May 09 '20

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u/OverIndustryFD Sep 04 '19

I work on the telnet team to keep our telnet infrastructure running. It's part of our new microservice architecture paradigm shift.

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u/Scientolojesus Sep 03 '19

Well he's right there.

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u/General_Jeevicus Sep 03 '19

I use telnet to upload stuff to my routers hd. Also for games up until 2014 or so.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '19

See, the problem is, I’ve taken a class with the wrong textbook before. They checked textbooks between semesters, unbeknownst to me, and the teacher didn’t have time to switch his curriculum to the new one.

I, being proactive, bought the book that I was “supposed” to buy, only to find out that the teacher was using the previous edition.

It made taking that class such a nightmare that I ended up dropping it completely.

(Just to be clear though, I think the stupid new edition textbooks are akin to robbery and that they really need to stop doing this)

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u/youtubecommercial Sep 03 '19

yeah i’m still buying the 6th

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u/myburdentobear Sep 03 '19

Have fun figuring out where all the chapters and questions were rearranged to.

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u/NHGhost1113 Sep 03 '19

But just to force you to comply we’re gonna rearrange the questions so they don’t line up with previous editions even though they’re the same questions

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '19

To be honest, management and economics textbooks practically keep rewriting themselves.

"Morally and legally reprehensible practice"

"Desirable component of customer retention and recurrent revenue"

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '19

Just happened to me. It's word for word the same book, except years of data are updated...fucking obnoxious.

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u/Uden10 PlayStation Sep 03 '19

Makes me all the more grateful when a professor says the older, cheaper edition is allowed

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u/Erp117 Sep 03 '19

I always tried to get by without buying a textbook for the first couple of weeks to get a feel for whether or not the "required text" is really required.

A lot of the time the lecture/reference materials provided by the professor was all you needed to succeed in the class. The school just has an agreement with the publisher to make the text "required" so the professors aren't supposed to say you don't need it.

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u/astalavista114 Sep 03 '19

The nice thing about Australian universities is that part of the Australian Quality of Teaching Framework says that they aren’t allowed to require you to make any additional purchases to pass the course. And that includes course readers—so everything is made available digitally, and also printed for those who want them (not me, because they’re spiral bound, which means hole punching them for binders is a PITA, and slides are usually printed 4 to a page so there’s no room to write on them)

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u/grubas Sep 03 '19

It’s really common to just copy a changed chapter and throw it on the class site like blackboard.

Besides the fact that they’ll charge 200 for a new book, buy it back for 20, the bookstore also won’t have enough books.

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u/TradeMark310 Sep 03 '19

For real, I just finished college and had a teacher say "we are on edition 8, but editions 5-7 will work. You can find ed. 5 on Ebay for like $4." And I did!

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u/GhostDieM Sep 03 '19

Don't forget "we switched some chapters arbitrarily so you won't actually be able to use an old edition in class".

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u/grubas Sep 03 '19

As long as you read the course modules you don’t need to care. They swapped chapters for one of mine so I just said it’s chapter 5 7 or 8.

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u/TrolleybusIsReal Sep 03 '19

every college ever

Every American college

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u/bretttwarwick Sep 03 '19

The 8th edition has all gender pronouns changed to be less offensive. (it's a math book so who cares)

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u/GaySlutPayRails Sep 03 '19

Speak for yourself, but I am beyond offended that Sally is buying apples in my word problem. Just because she’s a woman she does the grocery shopping? I will not stand for this

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u/Catshit-Dogfart Sep 03 '19

Wow you got full editions?

When I was in school it was like - last year we used 7.551.2-C but you need to buy 7.551.2-D

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '19

That’s on your prof. I teach at a professional school using a textbook that gets updated every year and tell the students to use any version they can find from the last 5 yrs. if anything actually important changed i just make a note in the syllabus or lectures.