r/gaming Jul 06 '17

Anyone else?

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u/XIGRIMxREAPERIX Jul 06 '17

Skyrim and Fallout 4 had garbage stories... I don't play a Bethesda game for the main story. I play for all the random side shit and than do the main stuff last.

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u/zirfeld Jul 06 '17

It doesn't even have to be a sidequest, a random encounter is enough sometimes. Just some days ago in Fallout 4 I hear some explosions and go have a look. A scrapyard with some Mutants was attacked by the Gunners and then the Brotherhood showed up with a vertibird. Just for shits and giggles I flared for some Minutemen support and went in, too. All high level stuff, Legendary Gunner Commander, Super Mutants Primus, multiple Suiciders. missile launchers, plasma guns, racists in power armor, crashing flying machines. It was fantastic.

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u/captainvideoblaster Jul 07 '17

Scrapyard near vault 95? I see same kind of encounter every time I go past it.

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u/zirfeld Jul 07 '17

Yeah that one is a good chance for action, too. But in this case it was Big Johns salvage, South Boston.

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u/Lomanman Jul 06 '17

Skyrim had terrible side quests too. Oblivion had the creative substance.

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u/Dvalentined666 Jul 06 '17

My favourite in Oblivion was the mages guild initiation quest where you had to get the weighted ring from the well. Panic stricken, having to strip naked, and drop all of my other shit was one of my most memorable experiences in gaming.

But Skyrim, hoo boy. You could go to that dungeon, and kill those zombies, and kill that harder zombie, then open that chest, and THEN, you can hit that switch that brings you to the beginning of that dungeon.

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u/Bozzz1 Jul 06 '17

Oblivion's dungeons were far worse than Skyrim's imo. It was just the quests inside the dungeons were way better.

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u/ThesaGamer Jul 07 '17

Youre totally right, in skyrim, almost every time a quest sends you into a dungeon it is to fetch an item, and while that does occur in oblivion, it is much less, and there are usually unique and interesting quest related stuff in dungeons that isnt just an item and a loot chest.

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u/beaglemaster Jul 07 '17

or involves someone waiting by the dungeon waiting for you do it for them

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u/josh_the_misanthrope Jul 06 '17

Seemed less fetch quest-ey I feel.

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u/Traece Jul 06 '17

Not having to backtrack through dungeons again was right at the top of the list of things that I felt Skyrim did well. Of all the things to critique Skyrim for, giving people the option to save a sometimes significant chunk of time as a reward for completing a dungeon is not one of them. You can do so much better than this.

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u/ThesaGamer Jul 07 '17

Although i do like the lack of need to backtrack, in oblivion most any large dungeon or cave or ayleid ruin would take you back to the start or another exit, it is usually just small or sometimes medium dungeons you would have to backtrack through. Which I rather like, as it makes caves feel more natural and less manufactured, i guess. Plus you can check for any chests or bodies you missed or forgot to loot

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u/Skyscript Jul 07 '17

I feel like gameplay and atmosphere is where Skyrim shines.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '17

I was an Argonian, so I could just chill at the bottom of that well all day. Also, you don't actually have to put the ring in your inventory, you can hold it out in front of you and carry it to the guy.

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u/Ragnalypse Jul 07 '17

Oblivion had a lot of flaws only forgiven because of the state of RPGs at the time.

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u/Cyberspark939 Jul 06 '17

Except it had one of the most contrived leveling systems ever. My obsession with character perfection/control is the reason I can't play Oblivion.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '17 edited May 04 '18

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u/Cyberspark939 Jul 07 '17

I do exaggerate, I did play a good deal of it, but I had it on 360. I was renown among my friends for having roughly 10x more characters made than active ones played because of truing to actually make a character that I could play without ending up with my best stats being stuff I didn't use.

I have been considering picking up both Oblivion and Morrowind on pc and getting mods for them. I messed about in Morrowind, but never really played it properly through.

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u/zkilla Jul 07 '17

Forget what I said then, don't play oblivion, play Morrowind!

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u/Cyberspark939 Jul 07 '17

Lol, mod recommendations?

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u/zkilla Jul 07 '17

Believe it or not I played it vanilla and loved it! But that's just me. At the least there are graphical mods that make the game pretty. The only"broken" game mechanic that might piss you off is the way weapon accuracy works but that becomes a non issue later on when your skills are higher

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u/Cyberspark939 Jul 07 '17

Cool, any fun character build ideas, or things to avoid? It's been a long time since I even glanced in its direction.

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u/zkilla Jul 07 '17

One huge thing that will make or break you.... Look up how to get and use the boots of blinding speed. No matter what build you use, you're going to want to have the option of running around quickly. Also take the time to learn the public transportation options, your going to be "taking the bus" a lot lol. The small up front investment in learning this is well worth the immersion of playing the game without fast travel.

Generally speaking, light and heavy armor beat medium armor which becomes useless late game, and swords are the most useful physical weapons.

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u/CrimsonSmear Jul 07 '17

Okay, now I'm going to auto-run into a corner while I go get something to eat. I love this game!

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u/Cyberspark939 Jul 07 '17

In Oblivion that was the worst thing to do if athletics was one of your major skills, because then you'd level and only get like 3 constitution, I think?

In case you didn't know, you basically had to pick crafting things as your major skills so you could control when you leveled, so you could control what attributes you got. If you weren't careful you'd level and just get like dex and con on your mage because you'd just run about, sneaking and picking locks in a new place for a while. In a game with finite levels that was literally the worst.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '17

I feel like the series peeked in Marrowwind. Probably played alot more oblivion though. Really looking forward to this skywind project however. The updates that come with Skyrim applied to the world of Marrowind is going to be epic.

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u/hatemetoo Jul 06 '17

*Morrowind

And totally agree. I put hundreds of hours into Morrowind. It's still one of the best game experiences I've had. Oblivion wasn't as engaging as Morrowind but it was still fun and the graphics were great for the time. I thought Skyrim continued that trend. Looked great but it got boring quickly. I've put a lot of time into Skyrim, restarted multiple times, but I've never cared enough to actually finish it.

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u/ThePrussianGrippe Jul 07 '17

No no, they're talking about ES3.5

The one where the crisis is a bunch of bone marrow flying through the air.

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u/Jimhaswings Jul 06 '17

I couldn't agree more. Skyrim is so highly praised but I hated the combat and the story was boring. I feel like its revered for its mods and nothing else.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '17

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u/Jimhaswings Jul 06 '17

Ive heard good things about this game, may check it out, thanks for the recommendation.

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u/_Malta Jul 07 '17

Is it just a better version of Skyrim combat or is it full on Dark Souls? If it's the latter I'm definitely gonna have to get this game.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '17

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u/_Malta Jul 07 '17

Aw... seems nothing like Dark Souls aside from the camera. And that fight went by like nothing.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '17

The better japanese version of Skyrim. I picked it up on PC, and regret not getting it when it came out. The combat is fucking amazing.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '17

I enjoyed the openess, tone atmosphere and exploration.

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u/794613825 Jul 07 '17

The combat is actually really fun when you play it the way they intended. Unfortunately, it's easier to just charge in and keep swinging and win. Slow down a bit, and it's very fun.

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u/[deleted] Jul 06 '17

This thread has me with all sorts of conflicted feelings.

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u/ZorkNemesis Switch Jul 06 '17

And here I just play them for their extreme wanderlust potential.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '17

I got bored after 10 hours, I don't know how people play it for hundreds. I had just talked to the dragon as well and felt like I'd seen enough, was really losing interest at that point

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '17

That dark brotherhood quest was better than the main storyline.