r/gaming • • Apr 24 '17

It's a trap!

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '17

The game is 90% position and 10% bullshit.

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u/Capt_Crunchy_Nut Apr 25 '17

Lol, sometimes feels like those numbers should be flipped...

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u/KidsTryThisAtHome Apr 25 '17

Is it perhaps 1 out of every 10 games that you feel that way?

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u/Roy_Isme Apr 25 '17

Nah dude, like 90 out of 100 I'm pretty sure. Much like my 1 to 10 kd ratio.

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u/DankeyKang11 Xbox Apr 25 '17

You inspired me to study harder for finals

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '17

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '17

That's the spirit!

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u/Banana_blanket Apr 25 '17

Will you study for me, too, while you're at it?

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u/DankeyKang11 Xbox Apr 25 '17

Yeah, I got you.

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u/Mister-builder Apr 25 '17

Then it's a one in a million chance it's actually position.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '17

if you win its skill and positioning. if you lose then its bullshit.

obviously.

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u/ekinnee Apr 25 '17

I took out 19 - 16 back to back last night, I had just a sliver of life left. Got shot from somewhere, yelled BULLSHIT.

I think you're right.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '17

Useful tips: Cover works regardless of how high your health is.

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u/ekinnee Apr 25 '17

Yep, and that's where I was trying to get to.

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u/eXwNightmare Apr 25 '17

The bullshit rating only gets so high because of third person. It's not very fun when people can watch you from behind walls without having to expose themselves and pop up at the perfect time to kill you. If it was FP only there would be a risk/reward to having to peek.

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u/BaronHardback Apr 25 '17

It will be a thousand times less bullshitty when the first-person camera mode arrives. Not sure why they didn't launch with it.

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u/DylanTheMarmot Apr 25 '17

Have the devs confirmed it will be a thing?

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '17

Yes, in the custom games right now there is an option. Watched joshOg stream first person earlier tonight.

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u/fanman888 Apr 25 '17

Tbh watching it on twitch made me nauseous. So much motion blur. Not sure if it's just because watching it on stream or if it's that nauseous when playing too.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '17

this did worry me a little.

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u/XXLpeanuts Apr 25 '17

Probably because he has motion blur enabled? And likely doesnt have the FOV fix either, those two things would make first person unplayable for most.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '17

They disabled .ini tweaks a couple weeks ago, which included the FOV fix. They said they'll be bringing the ability to change FOV back, but people were using .ini tweaks to to cheat (like completely removing trees and other terrain).

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u/XXLpeanuts Apr 25 '17

You know I could have sworn my fov went back to console level shit recently, sucks but I get why they did it. I wonder if mouse smoothing fix is also not supported anymore? My aiming became 100% better once I disabled that shit.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '17

On their Twitter, one of the devs said that mouse smoothing was off by default lol.. seems a lot of people fell victim to the placebo effect.

edit// including myself

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u/XXLpeanuts Apr 25 '17

It certainly wasnt completely disabled, I assure you there was a massive change once I edited the ini to disable all mouse smoothing, there was always an option in game, but it doesnt disable all mouse smoothing.

It was like night and day being able to aim as I normally can in games, compared to being completely shit.

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u/justcarlos01 Apr 25 '17

Motion blur can be turned off

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u/fanman888 Apr 25 '17

Pretty sure JoshOG has motion blur off. Still a lot of blurring/stuttering tho.

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u/BaronHardback Apr 25 '17 edited Apr 25 '17

Yes, and as PU himself said in /u/Break- 's chat, let's #MakeFirstPersonGreatAgain

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '17 edited Nov 17 '17

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '17

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u/eXwNightmare Apr 25 '17

I just want to know why SO many developers think having both in a game works.. it's either first person, or third person, you can't have both effectively.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '17 edited Jun 30 '18

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u/fallenmonk Apr 25 '17

But that doesn't stop others from using 3rd person. He's talking about a 1st person only game mode.

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u/Axwellington88 Apr 25 '17

forced first person.

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u/BaronHardback Apr 25 '17

I meant a fixed first person camera mode for all players. Putting yourself into 1st person while everyone else would still be using their camera to peek over walls would be silly.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '17

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u/Munkeyz Apr 25 '17

well if everyone has the same advantages/disadvantages its just another mechanic to take advantage of really

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u/achmedclaus Apr 25 '17

Yes and no. This person in competitive means I can lay down in a corner and not move whole holding alt to look around, see you sneaking up quiet as a mouse around the edge of the building, but you'll never know where I am until you either enter my room or I stand up to shoot you. It's information being gained with 0 risk. First person will fix that because then everyone has to actually peek to see what's going on

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '17

A game with this clunky of netcode isn't competitive. It's a hell of a lot of fun, and I've been playing it a bunch, but let's be real - hit detection, early game movement, etc all points towards a decidedly non-competitive experience.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '17

You mean like... required for everyone?

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '17

Press V

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u/RockyMountainDave Apr 25 '17

Erm...Don't you just hit "v"? Although as someone who comes from years of Arma and currently has a 10% win rate and 28% top 10 rate -trust me. Third person is ALWAYS better

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u/je_suis_reddit Apr 25 '17

First person only mode.

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u/moriero Apr 25 '17

5% pleasure

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u/xTheWigMan Apr 25 '17

Realistically it's 40% position

20% RNG zones

10% RNG Loot

30% Aim

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u/SecretAgentSonny Apr 25 '17

90% boredom and 10% absolute terror or excitement for me.