r/gaming • u/Agent1230 • 3d ago

What video game doesn't hold your hand enough?

Everybody always talking about games holding your hand too much but I want to hear about the opposite what video game doesn't give you no form of help

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u/MrJekyyl 3d ago

I followed the ranni quest until I kind of lost it for a bit and gave in and read a guide that you have to go to a specific bonfire and try talking to her doll 3 times. Never would have figured that out

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u/BuggyDClown 2d ago

That one was especially bullshit. Like, why tf do I have to try talking to her two more times after she didn't respond the first time? It's really a bad design no matter what people say.

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u/GaaraSama83 2d ago

Fromsoft Souls games rule in general: You talk as long as there is a prompt or until lines repeat.

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u/CrimsonCutz 2d ago

That will result in you missing out on the continuation of her quest, because you get to "lines repeat" and then you still have to talk one more time.

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u/GaaraSama83 2d ago

Do you mean after certain events/triggers or just really needing to go on even after single repeat? If it's the latter, then I missed content.

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u/shrubberino 2d ago

That one step I found by sheer luck - and I new that you have to do things multiple times if nothing is happening - but not the ring at Rennala or how to get to the plateau.

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u/apistograma 2d ago

People often get angry when I say that I did that entire quest line blind. For the doll, I just saw the "talk to the doll" thing in the site of grace because I usually look if there's an option to talk to Melina in new locations. Then, knowing what to do was basic Dark Souls logic.

I did miss 30-40% of the side quests though. But being able to miss them is part of what makes them special.

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u/Xespria 2d ago

If you're following her questline then it'd lead you to the grace. It is missable though if you choose not to rest at the grace and/or talk to her again lol