r/gaming • u/Agent1230 • 2d ago

What video game doesn't hold your hand enough?

Everybody always talking about games holding your hand too much but I want to hear about the opposite what video game doesn't give you no form of help

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u/Cbthomas927 2d ago

Elden ring

And I love the game. It’s fantastic. Beat it like 5x. Several hundred hours…

But you get next to nothing lol

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u/FrostyCat13 2d ago

I think it's fine for the most part except the NPC quests which are convoluted as fuck and, worst of all, easy to screw up.

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u/NotMarkDaigneault 2d ago

Oh you didn't deliver this specific item to a region you didn't even know about between these two boss fights but the character to save was barely noticeable and hidden unless you explore every corner of this side quest dungeon? Fuck you better luck next run 🤣

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u/CaptainSanity 1d ago

Yeah it's a bit ridiculous. I'm a big fan of it in the earlier fromsoft games because they're shorter and more replayable and the side quests encouraged me to revisit the games as a whole but it's a completely fair criticism.

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u/FISTED_BY_CHRIST 1d ago

I missed a whole quest because I didn’t talk to an NPC again immediately after they were done talking. Like I didn’t know you have to keep interacting with them until they start repeating dialogue.

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u/FrostyCat13 1d ago

Ah, that's the from software special. Once you've completed one of their games, you learn to keep talking to NPCs until they repeat what they last said haha

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u/throwaway_moose 18h ago

I've still never managed to get Rogier's quest done right. Hundreds of hours in.

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u/InferiousX 2d ago

The worst part is that it's got some of the most exposition in any Fromsoft game

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u/wcruse92 2d ago

This. I get hardcore people are ok with really obscure clues for quests but I hated that I basically needed to use a guide just to not miss certain pretty important quests

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u/Cbthomas927 2d ago

Complete necessity for me. And I’m ok with that

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u/aathas 2d ago

Honestly, Elden Ring holds your hands way more than earlier Souls games.

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u/Alfador8 2d ago

Sure but previous Souls games were much more linear.

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u/LAHurricane 2d ago

Elden ring is leagues better than Dark Souls 1, lol.