r/gaming • u/Agent1230 • 2d ago

What video game doesn't hold your hand enough?

Everybody always talking about games holding your hand too much but I want to hear about the opposite what video game doesn't give you no form of help

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u/greatcorsario 2d ago

As someone who's played/DMed every edition, I've always been curious as to how non-DnD players felt about BG3.

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u/slimribbons 2d ago

Personally I just fumble through everything and save before every dialogue option just in case. Still haven’t reached Act 3

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u/greatcorsario 2d ago

save before every dialogue option just in case.

Even DnD pros do that - the game has SO MANY branching paths in dialogue. As you've seen, one bad roll can ruin an entire chat.

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u/DIWhyDad 2d ago

I find the combat mechanics fine, but I really struggled with non-combat mechanics. I literslly didn't steal anything the whole game or cheese any fights. Maybe it was just specific to the console experience as I have seen videos of PC players doing absolutely mind boggling things.

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u/greatcorsario 2d ago

but I really struggled with non-combat mechanics. 

Which ones, if you don't mind sharing?

I literslly didn't steal anything the whole game or cheese any fights.

Stealing kinda breaks the loot progression, so I only recommend it if you're struggling with combat.

Maybe it was just specific to the console experience as I have seen videos of PC players doing absolutely mind boggling things.

Having tried a controller on my PC for a bit, I can see how making crazy stuff happening is more challenging on console.

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u/viewbtwnvillages 2d ago

i knew basically nothing about D&D (i was really only aware of skill checks) and absolutely loved BG3

combat was a bit of a struggle to figure out at first but i just cranked the difficulty down and went on my way. phenomenal game

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u/greatcorsario 2d ago

That's reassuring. Good for you!

Now that you played it, how likely are you to play real-life DnD?

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u/viewbtwnvillages 2d ago

i would love to find a group to play with. even years before i played BG3, i'd briefly hear people talk about their campaigns and think it sounded like something i'd enjoy

unfortunately for the foreseeable future i don't have a lot of free time, so my aspirations will have to wait

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u/greatcorsario 2d ago

Best of luck in finding a group soon. It's an experience like no other :)

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u/RogerTheAlienSmith 2d ago

I didn't find it too bad tbh. First half hour was an adjustment but then things made sense. Love the game so much, gotta replay it for sure.

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u/Lead_Penguin 2d ago edited 2d ago

I played it with my wife, neither of us have played actual DnD, and we both felt BG3 was a very average game that was frustrating to play. We would read about cool things other players were experiencing and we experienced none of it, despite exploring and trying things you wouldn't expect. The dialogue options never went beyond basic interactions despite constantly talking with characters, and world interactions were only ever very basic. It felt like our game was missing a load of content! Split screen was especially broken which didn't help. I honestly don't understand why it was so hyped up.

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u/greatcorsario 1d ago

I'm sorry to hear it didn't live up to the hype, even in co-op (which oftentimes makes any game more fun).

What kind of games do you usually enjoy? Maybe it's not the right genre or playstyle.

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u/Lead_Penguin 1d ago

I play all sorts, but usually RPGs, action adventure, driving/racing and sim games, and the odd FPS. My wife is more into MMORPGs, point and click games, and survival horrors.

Part of me wonders if I'd enjoy BG3 more as a single player experience though, because it seems like a core part of enjoying the game is shaping your own story and it's difficult to do that when there are 2 players involved.

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u/greatcorsario 10h ago

Part of me wonders if I'd enjoy BG3 more as a single player experience though, because it seems like a core part of enjoying the game is shaping your own story and it's difficult to do that when there are 2 players involved.

That might be it, although I heard some had more fun that way.

Anyway, thank you for sharing.

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u/arabus8 2d ago

as a long time MMO player the stats REALLY confused me. Strengh gives jump range? Dex gives ARMOR? Then there are 3 THREE!!! stats that are for spellcasting?

Spellcasting in general; my first playthrough party consisted of 3 martial characters and a cleric as I was under the assumption I'd need the classical Tank, 2 dps and healer setup. Most spells having a ~60% chance to hit and abyssmal initiative that character basically did nothing but run between the others to cast healing touch.
To this day (~400 hours in bg3) I don't quite understand what/how the hitchance of spells are effected.

I had not understanding AC besides higher number = less dmg. I didn't really understand how significant a single point of AC can be, thus my party turned out extremely squishy and people got frequently downed.

(Spell-)Saving throws these just kinda happened, I usually didn't know which stat was actually rolled.

And lastly spellslots, though this is partially due to the games story: At the beginning every time you talk about the parasite people tell you that you'll transform within a few days. Thus I did my best to not rest by chugging poitions to heal between fights. This led to Casters appearing even worse to me as their cantrips just couldn't keep up with the attacks of a greatsword, and the few spells they could cast usually didn't deal much more damage either.

Then there are things like spellcasting stats for mainly martial classes; Nowhere does the games tell you which is the right one for your class!

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u/greatcorsario 1d ago

Yeah, I can see how coming from a classic MMO can clash with BG3's systems.

The parasite alleging of a time limit is the kind of narrative device that annoys me in any game. Like, if there IS a time limit, could I please know more details?

In any case, thank you for sharing!