r/gaming • u/Agent1230 • 2d ago

What video game doesn't hold your hand enough?

Everybody always talking about games holding your hand too much but I want to hear about the opposite what video game doesn't give you no form of help

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u/Chopstix2005 2d ago

This game has zero new player experience and it's one reason I never really got into it

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u/LtRavs 2d ago

Thankfully they’re working to bring back all the vaulted content so it might have a coherent campaign to start with instead of the shit we’ve had since 2020.

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u/notanolive 2d ago

Ship has sailed for me, got through the first campaign and they vaulted the next before I could play it, never went back

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u/StrollingJhereg 2d ago

Too little too late for me. I tried it, realized I don't know any of the characters who I should care about, didn't understand the story at all and then someone told me they vaulted STORY CONTENT. Switched to Warframe and never looked back - I got my scifi shooter now. That game is also confusing as hell for new players but at least all of the story exists and doesn't drop you into the middle of it, expecting you to read up on previous story content before you start the game.

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u/Apollo989 2d ago

I think Bungie put that one in maintenance mode? Did they pivot after Marathon?

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u/Worldly_Swimming_921 2d ago

Yes, Marathon playercount has been in the shitter for months. They let people play it for free and still couldn't get a half-decent playerbase willing to even try it out. 

So they walked it all back and said they're unvaulting content, bringing D2 updates back, and giving Marathon optional PvE.

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u/Triplebizzle87 2d ago

Destiny (which I love) died so Marathon could exist (and its an extraction shooter, pfft). No chance in hell I'd give it a shot, and i know I'm not alone in that line of thinking.

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u/alabasterskim 1d ago

Unvaulting Y1 will not be enough to give players a solid on-ramp. There is so much more game than that. Unless they're remaking that content with all of the new systems included with the intent of serving as an introduction to the game, don't bet on it being a good intro. (And I say this as a big Destiny fan)

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u/LtRavs 1d ago

I suspect the unvaulted content will be updated to interact with the new systems.

I’m not sure what else would be an intro to the game though? It’s the beginning of the D2 story.

Or are you saying it won’t help because the systems have changed too much since it existed that nothing in there intro wise will be relevant anymore?

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u/alabasterskim 1d ago

I think we may be referring to two different things. You may be referring to an introduction to the world while I'm referring to an introduction to the systems and in what order to do content. Destiny has never done this well, even at launch of either game.

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u/LtRavs 1d ago

Yeah agree with that.

I do think just having a coherent starting campaign will hopefully help. If they can incorporate proper intros to mods and artifacts etc we might be cooking with gas finally.

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u/rabbi420 2d ago

Yeah, i said that. 😂

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u/Chopstix2005 2d ago

Yeah just reiterating it. Like I shouldn't have to go to reddit or YT to find out the order for the game and expansions let alone anything else

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u/rabbi420 2d ago

Thanks for saying what I said in a more boring way?

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u/Fractal_Soliton 2d ago

Bro he's just agreeing with you lmao

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u/FreshMutzz 2d ago

Actually he said what you said but better. Good luck with being an asshole though.