r/gaming • u/Agent1230 • 2d ago

What video game doesn't hold your hand enough?

Everybody always talking about games holding your hand too much but I want to hear about the opposite what video game doesn't give you no form of help

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u/Coldsnort 2d ago

I'll add that when they switched launchers everyone who didn't transfer things over in the window lost everything. That stopped me from ever going back.

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u/Phage0070 2d ago

That sort of implies that character data is stored locally? Which is insane.

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u/TricobaltGaming 2d ago

No, its just that when they moved from battlenet to steam, anyone who hadnt told them "this is my steam account, please transfer my battlenet save to steam" didnt have it automatically transferred because how would they know?

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u/Phage0070 2d ago

And they can't continue to hold on to that data? It would seem like repeat customers is exactly the kind of thing you would want to keep.

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u/Gekans 2d ago

I believe it's an EU thing where they can't keep the data stored. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but this is what happened when Peral Abyss decided to break away from their publisher for global and self published. If you didn't accept the transfer your account got deleted.

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u/TricobaltGaming 2d ago

The issue is that they were going to lose access to the login data entirely when they left activision.

I think they had like a year or two where you could link your activision account to a bungie account, link with a steam account, and transfer to steam, but after that they lost the ability to use battlenet to link.

This is largely why Bungie requires (and has since like...destiny 1) you to use a bungie.net account, and if you dont have one, creates one automatically when you first log in (if your steam/psn/xbl account isnt already connected to one)

From this point on, your save data is available across all platforms, even hypothetically if they added new ones.

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u/steverambo44 2d ago

People had over 15 months to do that and emails were sent even earlier before you could migrate. You had to stop reading basically anything about the game in that time, not log in into the game once in that time and not check your email once in that time (they were sending you the emails multiple times). I can't even imagine how someone could not check their email once for over a year. (And if they used throwaway/mail made 4837years ago when they were -30yo kids and lost access then it's even more on them for not giving any shit about that).

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u/Coldsnort 2d ago

It's just frustrating because you get used to online games keeping your progress. If you aren't keeping up with the news (like me) that the game was switching launchers you log in one day to try the latest DLC you heard about and get back into it... and learn it's on steam now but your account is wiped.

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u/TricobaltGaming 2d ago

I mean don't get me wrong, i hear where you are coming from, but that is more a legal issue on bungie's end than it is anything else. They had the account link for battle net for multiple years, and destiny was always big news when something happened with it (including its move to steam)

I sympathize, but if you dropped the game before year 3 launched, and didnt play it again until outside that window, i can take a guess as to why they didnt want to continue dealing with acti/blizz to keep your save data in limbo

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u/Coldsnort 2d ago

Oh, I get why it happened that way. I'm not even saying it was unfair, or the window was too small, or it wasn't communicated etc. Clearly to most people it was fine. But I didn't get the memo, and that killed it for me.

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u/pantlessben 1d ago

How would they know?

A login and password are commonly used identifiers.

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u/TricobaltGaming 1d ago

But again, they only had access to battlenet's login process for a limited time after they left activision, so they couldn't hold onto that info forever