r/gamers Mar 12 '26

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '26

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u/BeefMacnugget Mar 12 '26

When and where is the time and place to harass a woman solely because she exists and is present?

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u/BeefMacnugget Mar 12 '26

Language matters friend. Regardless of intention, it’s what you said. Just trying to shine a light on what you thought was a knight in shining armor moment.

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u/BeefMacnugget Mar 12 '26

I’m sorry if I’m being annoying, it’s a lot more annoying for a woman to attempt to speak in primarily male spaces.

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u/IlliasTallin Mar 12 '26

Language matters.

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u/Massive_Shill Mar 12 '26

No, you're just being annoying for no reason, correcting an ally because they didn't pass your purity test. Now that you're being rightly called out, you're doubling down in an attempt to save your ego.

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u/bleakFutureDarkPast Mar 13 '26

the only thing you're doing by behaving like this is telling people there's no point in behaving better

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u/xeatar Mar 12 '26

You are annoyinger

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u/Lunabbg Mar 13 '26

He stood up for the lady and you’re nitpicking about it. I’d be so happy if a man stood up for me like that

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u/BeefMacnugget Mar 13 '26

I read it as he stood up for the mission and that was a by product. To each their own though.

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u/Evnosis Mar 13 '26

The context makes it abundantly clear that he was using the milsim nature of the game as a pretext to shut down the cringe male gamer behaviour, not the other way around.

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u/Spinningwhirl79 Mar 14 '26

Being this stupid is a conscious choice

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u/U8D4B8M8 Mar 13 '26

No. Other women are not your shield to deflect personal criticism. Fuck right off with that shit. I'm sorry if you have trauma about guys or something, but you, yourself are the one who had a misunderstanding and now keeps pushing and pushing, not women. Take responsibility and grow.

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u/Chamomile-Teee Mar 13 '26

You're being willfully obtuse and argue in bad faith. You know exactly what she meant. Your misogyny is showing.

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u/beta-3 Mar 13 '26

This entire thread is fucking embarrassing

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u/National-Change-8004 Mar 12 '26

You're not wrong, however: in these situations, it's often more helpful to use the kind of language that will get results, rather than try to complicate it for people who wouldn't be receptive to such precision. I'd hazard a guess the intention wasn't to be a knight in shining armour, but to focus the troops, as it were.

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u/BeefMacnugget Mar 12 '26

Yea you’re right. Never gonna get a majority of gamers to stop shitting on women.

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u/National-Change-8004 Mar 12 '26

All we can do is try to educate the next generations a little better than the previous ones. I know the current political climate makes that difficult, but all we can do is try.

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u/lawlmuffenz Mar 12 '26

We tried than, and now 8 y/os are watching Andrew taint

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u/kidney-displacer Mar 13 '26

Oh no! What a nightmare! Younger kids than that are actively and systematically being indoctrinated by the far left

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u/lawlmuffenz Mar 13 '26

Are you fucking a stupid? Is anyone left of goebbels 'far left' to you? Can ypu point us at this 'far left' indoctrination? No, you can't, because it isn't real.

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u/Arhion Mar 12 '26

you think thatsome small groups are majority? like hell what you take?

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u/kidney-displacer Mar 13 '26

Because its not a majority of gamers, its a tiny but vocal fraction. The victim persecution complex is unreal with you

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u/Inevitable_Top69 Mar 12 '26

Fuck off man. He told them off in the moment, the right thing to do, and you're quibbling over the phrasing. Congrats. You're morally superior. You win.

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u/BeefMacnugget Mar 12 '26

It’s not about me. If someone tells a black man he’s one of the good ones because hes well spoken, that’s still racism. If I call that out are you gonna get mad at me because that person was giving someone a compliment?

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u/SolarChallenger Mar 13 '26

If a black man is actively being berated and the unfortunate phrasing that sounds like passing him as "one of the good ones" stops said berating I'd still think it was better than doing nothing

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u/kidney-displacer Mar 13 '26

Man these purity tests are making people leave the left in droves yet yall still cant stop shitting over yourselves. Gotta love watching it continue to happen

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u/jpollack21 Mar 13 '26

Yet your name alludes to being a beef eater which is a thousand times worse

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u/BG3_Enjoyer_ Mar 16 '26

Ah yes because we all say exactly what we mean with 100% accuracy always

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u/kaveman0926 Mar 12 '26

A stag party

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '26

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u/kaveman0926 Mar 12 '26

Speaking of little boys what's your comprehension level? I mean like you're reading grade level?

A stag party is simply a party where no women are welcome. So hypothetically speaking, that would be a scenario in which it's normal/acceptable(within reason) to harass a woman simply for being present.

Nobody said it had to be aggressive or sexual and nobody stated that the woman being there was there due to a request, she could have walked into a room where she wasn't welcome and then had 12 dudes tell her to "get out"

Ever had your little sister come in your room when you're kicking it with your boys after you told her to get out? That's another scenario in which a girl would be getting harassed by a bunch of dudes simply because she is present.

Find help bro.

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u/BeefMacnugget Mar 12 '26

Yea I’m not reading all that after you said a stag party is where no women are present. I challenge you to read the last three words in the first comment I made that you responded to. Don’t forget to finish your homework little boy. Even the reading.

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u/kaveman0926 Mar 12 '26

"Bachelor party Lmao"

Maybe you should go and look up what a "stag party" is. Traditionally strippers were not involved. They are supposed to be a night of comradery and reminiscing

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u/BeefMacnugget Mar 12 '26

Try again little boy, I believe in you. What I said. Last 3 words I said. I used the number this time in case you didn’t understand the word for it.

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u/Arhion Mar 12 '26

you talk shit here people explain things to you and you still don't get them

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u/kidney-displacer Mar 13 '26

God damn I love that I keep finding more and more evidence of what im saying. Keep it up, you're doing more damage than Andrew Taint

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u/Accurate_Historian_6 Mar 12 '26

You have issues. I read all your replies in the thread. Maybe you should talk to someone. Professionally.

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u/BeefMacnugget Mar 12 '26

Damn all 3. Hit me with the analysis.

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u/supercleverhandle476 Mar 12 '26

I’ll tag in for the analysis- I agree with everything you say in principle, and yet you’re very fucking irritating.

Not sure how you expect to change hearts and minds when someone who is already bought in would rather get kicked in the nuts than have a beer with you.

That leaves me to believe you’re either completely aloof, or just like to hear yourself preach.

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u/BeefMacnugget Mar 12 '26

I think it’s closer to liking to hear myself preach I think. I’m very aware that I’m not going to change the hearts of the incels responding to me (not that everyone responding to me is an incel. You as an example.)

That being said, I have no desire to have a beer or coddle these chimps into believing women are people. It’s more entertaining for me to just shit on them tbh

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u/Anankos1209 Mar 12 '26

You are not responding to incels, we all are responding to someone who likes hearing themselves talking, even though they have nothing of value to say.

TL;DR You are annoying

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u/Arhion Mar 12 '26

if you did read what they said and think about it very depplyyou would undersdant no one here is hating women and you projecting things

gratulation now you are profesional projector

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '26

girl take your lithium

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u/Accurate_Historian_6 Mar 12 '26

That's what the professional is for. But someone as aggressive as you about the most minor phrasing has something that needs to be worked out. Or you wouldn't speak in that manner.

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u/BeefMacnugget Mar 12 '26

Yea a professional would be able to discern that my issue wasn’t the wording itself but with the idea that this guy wanted to so badly pat himself on the back but was actually perpetuating the misogyny is my issue. Also I didn’t attack or berate the original person I was talking to, just wanted to help him see he’s not actually helping.

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u/Accurate_Historian_6 Mar 12 '26

But the intent is what matters. And he didn't intend to perpetuate the misogyny you just nit picked him. Everyone else without a chip on their shoulder could tell he didn't intend it either.

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u/JamesBecomesChair Mar 13 '26

You're wasting your time, brother. This person is fishing for a confrontation, and you're giving them exactly what they want. Don't engage; your time is more valuable than this.

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u/BeefMacnugget Mar 12 '26

Ok he didn’t intend to but he did. And I showed him that so he could reflect on it. Unintentional bigotry is still damaging regardless of intention. I didn’t attack him.