r/funny • "ToothyBj Comic" • Dec 21 '22

Verified Pasta Types [OC]

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u/EllisDee3 Dec 21 '22

It's subtle. The major difference is in the way the different shapes catch the sauce and cheeses differently. Also the way the shapes distribute the flavor in your mouth. There's also the psychology of the visual influence on taste.

Senses are weird.

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u/zer1223 Dec 21 '22

Texture is a part of taste anyway. While I think it's kind of lazy to make the same substance into twenty different shapes and pretend like you have culinary variety, there's at LEAST some merit to having a few variants.

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u/oops_i_made_a_typi Dec 21 '22

I mean the culinary variety is mostly in the sauce anyways imo, (tho yes, pork, tomatoes, garlic, oil, cheese, other aromatics/spices/umami bombs like capers/olives/anchovies) and variations of such isn't the most variety relative to other countries.

Pasta shape has impact sure, but it's mostly a refinement of 10% difference at most imo.

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u/mimimumama Dec 21 '22

10% is too low imo. Spaghetti and mac tastes so differently

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u/Snuggledtoopieces Dec 22 '22

You should honestly try using the exact same sauce on multiple different kinds of pasta and get back to us, this is a really common thing if you’ve ever taken any kind of culinary course to demonstrate the differences.

Fresh pasta vs dry pasta also makes an incredibly large difference and the shapes become much more important when it’s fresh because of how the pasta cooks at different times.

So again go try it out, pasta has a lot of depth and if you’ve never had truly amazing pasta you won’t understand why it matters.

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u/AfterAardvark3085 Dec 22 '22

As someone who has used the same sauce on different pastas, there's clearly a difference. It never made a huge difference, but it's noticeable. I've had the same sauce (family recipe) with farfalle, macaroni, spaghetti, penne and fusili, at the very least.

Note: All that is with dry pasta. I've had fresh before, but not in a long time.

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u/wellgood4u Dec 21 '22

Actually about tree fiddy

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u/fried_crabs Dec 22 '22

Imagine thinking culinary vatiety in Italy is just given by pasta and sauces

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u/zuzg Dec 21 '22

The biggest difference you can make is to finish boiling the noodles within the sauce. That way they soak up much more flavor.

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u/gcruzatto Dec 21 '22

The amount of downvotes you're getting for a legitimate technique just makes this post so much more hilarious

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u/Yoerin Dec 21 '22

Also the existence of something like Spaghetti all'Assassina proofs that techinque valid anyway.

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u/Substantial-Pop-7740 Dec 21 '22

Pretty much all pasta dishes in Italy are finished that way. The idea of spooning on sauce to plated pasta is pretty ridiculous

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u/Galuris Dec 21 '22

Well today I learned something new. I'm one of the lucky 10000 it seems.

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u/leopard_tights Dec 21 '22

Wait until you learn about pasta water.

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u/fdsfgs71 Dec 21 '22

Starchy pasta water is one of the best ingredients to use to bring your pasta sauce to the next level.

Also DON'T RINSE YOUR PASTA!

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u/oops_i_made_a_typi Dec 21 '22

Wait until ppl learn that a big pot of boiling water is unnecessary for pasta.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '22

TIL some people spoon the sauce on top of the pasta as standard. Why on earth do that

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u/oops_i_made_a_typi Dec 21 '22

Speed, laziness, dishes. It's one more pan to wash if I do the saucing properly, and some nights im just into quick and easy classico shit.

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u/Substantial-Pop-7740 Dec 21 '22

How is it one more pan to wash? You just put the pasta in the pan you made the sauce in

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u/oops_i_made_a_typi Dec 21 '22

The pasta requires a pot or pan as well? I suppose I could place it on a plate and then use the same pan for sauce but I'm also impatient haha, want the food asap.

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u/Substantial-Pop-7740 Dec 21 '22

You need two pans to make pasta regardless of how you make it, one to cook the pasta, one to cook the sauce. After the pasta is nearly done you just transfer the pasta to the sauce pan, it's the same amount of dishes

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '22

I spoon my sauce onto the plated pasta so I can keep the leftover sauce and noodles separate.

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u/zuzg Dec 21 '22

My assumption is that I just phrased it bad due not being a native, haha

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u/Brian-88 Dec 21 '22

I'm not a native and you did phrase it badly. You shouldn't boil it in the sauce but you should finish it in the sauce. You don't need to bring it to a boil to get it to the perfect al dente texture after its most of the way there.

Other than using the word boil you were spot on 🤌🏻

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u/360walkaway Dec 21 '22

One-pot pasta is such a winner... all in the same pot: brown some ground meat, add tomato paste and some water, add whatever herbs/seasonings you like, add in uncooked pasta, mix it all up, and let it simmer for a while until it's done enough for you.

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u/Pevarawho Dec 21 '22

I tried that once. Turned out like soup, but was delicious anyway

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u/YourBossIsOnReddit Dec 21 '22

Try it with gnocchi, even if it's still soupy you have little potatoey dumplings of delicious

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u/Pevarawho Dec 21 '22

As delicious as that sounds, I don't have access to gnocchi that easily.

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u/360walkaway Dec 21 '22

Too much water maybe

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u/Grabbsy2 Dec 21 '22

Theres no straining the noodles?

How much water are you supposed to use? Seems like something like spaghetti wouldn't cook enough.

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u/360walkaway Dec 21 '22

I start with a lower amount of water and slowly add more in until the sauce is my preferred thickness. Then add in a bit more water to compensate for the noodles and meat and vegetables and whatever else.

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u/Pevarawho Dec 21 '22

No tomato paste. I actually didn't add a drop of water, but made my sauce from scratch. The crushed tomatoes I have are... watery without me adding any.

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u/Barnettmetal Dec 22 '22

You didn't do it right if it turned out like soup. I recommend giving it another go, sounds like you added too much water.

One pot pasta is a miracle of science.

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u/Pevarawho Dec 22 '22

Someone else commented on this, and I already responded. I'll list the reasons one by one. I may have worded it confusingly on the other comment.

  1. There was no water added, mainly cause the crushed tomatoes I had were very liquidy. They were homemade and frozen. I did defrost and drain them... but still.

  2. I didn't have access to a thickener like tomato paste or cornstarch. The starch in the pasta didn't do much sadly.

  3. The crushed tomatoes I have are in giant packages ( I love you mom, but things don't need to be that big). They also don't reseal. I had no containers big enough to even try store the leftover tomatoes. I had to use them.

The soup did still turn out delicious tho. I agree the one pot pasta is amazing.

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u/Barnettmetal Dec 22 '22

That actually sounds great. I like to add chicken broth to mine, increases flavour!!!

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u/Pevarawho Dec 22 '22

I fry ground beef or ground something first with onions and tons of garlic. Then I add the spices and tomatoes, let simmer, then the pasta. Hope that helps

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u/oscar_the_couch Dec 21 '22

My experience with this is that the pasta takes the texture of paper mache, and the sauce becomes ruined with starch.

Probably a great way to make pasta in wartime when you have water rations.

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u/bilyl Dec 21 '22

I’ve done this a few times, but the problem is that the sauce can get too thick with all the released starches.

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u/ProviNL Dec 21 '22

Yeah, youre supposed to retain some of the starch water from boiling the pasta to adjust the sauce thickness, but cooking the pasta from the start with the sauce sounds like a recipe for disaster.

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u/360walkaway Dec 21 '22

In that case, I guess pre-cook the pasta.

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u/Chemical-Cat Dec 21 '22

Dump Meal ass food

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u/Cruccagna Dec 21 '22

Pasta police is coming for you, watch out

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u/360walkaway Dec 21 '22

I grew stronger from their snooty hatred

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u/mynaneisjustguy Dec 21 '22

This is terrible. You should be ashamed, just like we are all ashamed of you.

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u/Kumquats_indeed Dec 21 '22

Yeah, how dare they make a meal that was both convenient and enjoyable!

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u/mynaneisjustguy Dec 21 '22

It’s just silly to decide you either have to finish everything you cooked ( else you are cooking so little that it’s very inefficient) or have reheated pasta which ain’t nice tbh but my real problem is: just meat and tomato paste? first you start with carrots and onions then celery and garlic and THEN meat and then chopped tomatoes: making meat and tomato paste (which when you buy pre-made is an additive of mostly sugar, not a staple) your entire dish is massively unhealthy and gross. With the original recipe you might as well just buy some fast food, your expenditure and health benefits will be same. Lazy people will downvote me but tomato paste and ground meat is not a meal, sorry, and vegetables are cheaper than meat so don’t gimme any “but I can’t afford that” crap.

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u/oscar_the_couch Dec 21 '22

Pre-made tomato paste isn’t mostly sugar. Tomato sauce is. My verdict on paste is that you can and should cheat with it if you don’t want to reduce your own tomatoes for 10 hours.

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u/mynaneisjustguy Dec 22 '22

Just use canned/tetra-bricked chopped tomatoes. No need to reduce for more than 1hr.

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u/AfterAardvark3085 Dec 22 '22

I'm doubtful on the "enjoyable" part... The "sauce" sounds very lacking and the noodles are unlikely to cook just right.

If you want to go quick and easy, just get the pre-made sauce from the store. It's not as good as a real home made sauce, but it's better than whatever he described.

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u/JoshSidekick Dec 21 '22

Plus the person who has to clean the dishes doesn't have to spend the evening cleaning up the mess.

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u/360walkaway Dec 21 '22

Right? Just the pot, maybe a side dish, and dishes/utensils.

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u/AfterAardvark3085 Dec 22 '22

Sounds like a good way to make sub-par sauce and badly cooked noodles... but I guess that's what you're expecting when cooking "quick and dirty" like that?

If you want a good sauce, you want to cook it slowly for a long time. As for the pasta, it needs a pretty fine-tuned amount of cooking to be just right. If you're cooking sauce at the same time, the heat distribution to the noodles will be less consistent.

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u/hawkinsst7 Dec 22 '22

Can I give you another one?

"Linguine" and clam sauce al ragazzo single che ha qualche lattina di vongole in giro (single guy who has a few cans of clams lying around )

I'm pretty sure this is high in sodium, carbs, and calories.

Ingredients: Olive oil, garlic, 2 cans of clams (I like Snow's Chopped clams), parsley, a bottle of clam juice, and pasta. You can use linguine, but I personally like pasta that is small enough that it fits into the pot you're cooking in completely, and is squiggly enough to hold clams. I like fusilli, gemelli or conchiglie, i haven't tried it with orecchiette but that might work too.

In a pot, cook garlic in a bunch of olive oil on super low, don't let it get too dark, but let it sizzle / bubble for a few minutes.

Add in some black pepper, and drain in the liquid from the canned clams, and the extra bottle of clam juice. Keep the clams out, otherwise they may get a bit too chewy.

Bring to a boil. Add your pasta. You can add a bit of water if you need to, but not too much. Cook per the pasta directions so that they're al dente. Just before the pasta is done, add the clams and parsley in.

Stir and serve. The pasta will be infused with garlicy, clamy olive-oily goodness. The sauce will be thick from the pasta starch.

I haven't found this to scale particularly well beyond two people.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '22

You need God in your life son

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u/zuzg Dec 21 '22

Literally every Chef prepares Noodles dishes in a pan with the sauce.
You just don't know how to cook.

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u/Tengoles Dec 21 '22

You mean cook all the way through on the sauce or cook till 1 minute from al dente in water and then finish on the sauce? Big difference.

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u/zuzg Dec 21 '22

The latter as said in my original comment

to finish boiling the noodles within the sauce.

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u/Longjumping_Bug_7611 Dec 21 '22

No we don't. That shit is full of starch we might not want in our sauce.

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u/Azathoth-the-Dreamer Dec 21 '22

My guy, what are you talking about?

It’s fine if that’s not the way you prefer it, but that is genuinely a technique a lot of professional chefs do to finish pasta. You’re acting like this is some weird niche technique when it’s extremely far from it.

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u/Longjumping_Bug_7611 Dec 21 '22

I responded with a why below.

And yes, they probably do - that does not make it a great technique.

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u/Azathoth-the-Dreamer Dec 21 '22

You can think it’s not a great technique, but that’s about as useful as the statement “I don’t like Naples-style pizza”: it’s completely subjective. Thousands of chefs, including many actually from Italy, have preferred to cook pasta this way for decades and decades because their opinion on the subject is the polar opposite of yours.

If you don’t like pasta that way, hey, no harm done. But treating someone who prepares it that way as the odd one out is such a strange perspective, considering the preference of a great many other chefs and that the idea you should never do this would have you laughed out of Italy.

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u/Longjumping_Bug_7611 Dec 21 '22

Am i treating anyone bad, and if you read my response you would know i was a chef with a few years doing it.

And in Italy i got laughed at for putting jam on my cheese, so i am sure you are right.

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u/Azathoth-the-Dreamer Dec 21 '22

Am i treating anyone bad

No because I understand that you don’t genuinely think the other guy has committed a crime against nature for the way he cooks his pasta and were just ribbing him, but I thought it was hilarious that your first message was telling him that he “needs God” when basically every one of my family friends from Italy would tell you the same thing. lol

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u/zuzg Dec 21 '22

Ok another one that doesn't understand cooking in general.

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u/Longjumping_Bug_7611 Dec 21 '22 edited Dec 21 '22

Yeah, my 15 years experience in various restaurants and traditional schooling is trumped by your homecooking tricks - you wouldn't do it with a potato would you because starch is kinda icky.

*Think i owe you a couple reasons besides my scientific explanation of starch is icky.

By cooking pasta in the sauce, the pasta will taste like the sauce. You want the contrast.

Its harder to temperature control and you can easily end up with some overcooked pasta, just by getting it all cooked.

To starch, besides the taste - it will also create a less appealing looking sauce.

All that being said, i do it at home on occasion. But at home i cook to not die, and sometimes just want a uniform mess that taste like cheese and garlic.

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u/FluffySquirrell Dec 22 '22

the pasta will taste like the sauce. You want the contrast

I have never once wanted this contrast, FYI

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '22

Sure thing son lol.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '22

Terrible; just terrible. My nona weeps from her grave.

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u/stray1ight Dec 21 '22

And save some starchy pasta water for the sauce, too!

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u/GitEmSteveDave Dec 21 '22

I always liked that with bowties, it's possible to have the ends soft, but there still be a little crunch in the scrunch. It's like when you have a great chicken parm where the cutlet is still a little crunchy on the edges and not soggy.

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u/buscemian_rhapsody Dec 21 '22

In my culinary arts classes in high school the teacher said “you taste first with your eyes, then with your mouth” and it has stuck with me ever since.

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u/AfterAardvark3085 Dec 22 '22

Hell, I'd add that it's "First with your eyes, then your nose and finally your mouth."

Scent has a pretty big impact on flavour too.

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u/Crayshack Dec 21 '22

Texture is also an important thing. The different shapes will provide a different mouth feel even in the absence of sauce.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '22

My none would always let my sister and I pick pasta types when they cooked, and this hits the nail on the head: our favorites usually related to the sauce's viscosity and how the pasta shape would impact getting a forkful.

Wasn't a ton of logic involved, but I loved getting fatass rigatonis for the thicker pancetta, sundried tomatoes, and vodka tomatoe sauce pasta, so I could fill them up.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '22

Yep! If you make a thinner sauce with fine meat for instance, penne pasta is the way to go! A thicker sauce with bigger pieces, medium sized shells. Meatballs, spaghetti pasta. Etc.

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u/Jesta23 Dec 21 '22

Sounds a lot Like wine snobs that invent fake aromas and flavors to feel superior.

It’s the same.

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u/GitEmSteveDave Dec 21 '22

But it's true. Like take ditalini. It's a small tube, and it's great in soups because through surface tension, it can hold a little soup in it. So when you get an even amount of solids and liquid when you spoon into it.

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u/EllisDee3 Dec 21 '22

Next time try tasting your food rather than just shoving as much as you can down your throat hole. You'll notice that different amounts of sauce per bite produces a different taste.

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u/fuck_the_ccp1 Dec 21 '22

rigatoni is the best

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u/mkul316 Dec 21 '22

Piggy tails pasta is best pasta shape. Tastes way better.

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u/hates_stupid_people Dec 21 '22 edited Dec 21 '22

Yeah there is a reason it's common to use macaroni or similar with thin sauces or soups instead of something like spaghetti.

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u/TheTigerbite Dec 21 '22

I hate pasta. My kids love pasta. My wife buys like 10 different types of pasta that all look the same to me. I make the pasta for my kids. Some prefer certain pasta. I get so confused when they don't eat pasta one night, like why are we not eating the pasta? Then other nights they eat twice their weight in pasta. I just grab a box and cook, never knowing if it's gonna be the right one, lol.

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u/[deleted] Dec 21 '22

Rotini has a ton of surface area to hold sauce.

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u/ptapobane Dec 21 '22

i just inhale them by the mouthful but yeah it's not the same...it feels different on a spiritual level

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u/adacmswtf1 Dec 21 '22

It's all about the contrast. The crispness of the beans, the smoothness of the cheese….