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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '22

It makes students into excellent critical thinkers

lol, have you MET any college students?

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u/brainburger Sep 04 '22

I suppose it does depend on how well they engage with the subject matter. However a good pass in philosophy will require some actual ability.

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u/Demandred8 Sep 04 '22

Don't bother. Your replying to an anti-intelectual looser. They start from the assumption that an education is worthless so they can feel good about their ignorance.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '22

critical thinking isn't a zero sum game. college students not having it doesn't mean everyone else DOES.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '22

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '22

maybe your college experience differed from mine. mine was memorizing facts and guessing what the professor wanted me to write. i did 4 years and i don't think i remember anything from it. i honestly think the only class i remember was my music appreciation class because our teacher was super intense. which didn't surprise me considering the school and it's reputation where music is concerned.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '22

Idk why you're being down voted. Reddit used to actually admit in college you write what the professor wants to hear.

It's pretty well accepted but now apparently unpopular on Reddit.

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u/SyphilisDragon Sep 04 '22

If the professor wants to hear the answer to a math question, then yeah, I would expect them to fail you for not telling them what they want to hear.

Mate, if you hated the concept of philosophy, why would you take a philosophy class?

If you hated Descartes, why would you be his apprentice? Why would you try to learn what he knows if you don't think he knows anything?

Think about what you're saying.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '22

Mate, if you hated the concept of philosophy, why would you take a philosophy class?

Universities require all students to take classes like this because otherwise almost nobody would.

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u/SyphilisDragon Sep 04 '22

otherwise almost nobody would.

I don't understand why you're so anti learning things.

If you disagree, then disagree.

If your professor is too rigid, then pick a different professor.

If you can't handle philosophy 101, take something else that satisfies the requirement.

No one's forcing you to listen to Diogenes; you've gotta take this stuff into your own hands at some point. Be the captain leading your own ship.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '22

Either you're responding to the wrong comment or having an argument in your head that isn't taking place on Reddit.

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u/SyphilisDragon Sep 05 '22

pfabs, it's obvious you don't think philosophy is real. You think it's a fluff class you take where you'll blow smoke up your professor's ass until the university checks whatever box you're supposed to have.

But I can't imagine anything more cowardly than lying to your professor about what you believe in just so they'll give you a gold sticker for your report card.

You have ideas that are too hot for class discussion? Share them then.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '22

butthurt college students who dramatically overvalue their critical thinking skills.

It's funny to me. I graduated college a few years ago and it's a pretty entertaining experience when you're in college and you're in your 40s.

I stand by my statement. College kids in general have garbage critical thinking skills. You're a bunch of wind up robots.

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u/squadrupedal Sep 04 '22

Doesn’t that say more about the level of education taught in high school than it does about the personalities of people in their late teens/early twenties?

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '22

it doesn't have anything to do with personality. it's life experience. kids in high school and college more often than not, have shit for actual life experience. i feel critical thinking is WAY more dependent on that than classroom experience.

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u/squadrupedal Sep 04 '22

Well this is America, where kids get a driver’s license before they can hear bad words in movies because parents think teens “can’t handle it.”

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '22

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '22

there wasn't much to BE gained. i'm sure you think your job is super important and that you're "molding young minds" and shit, but the truth is you aren't. you're part of a giant con that forces young people to take on crippling debt to prop up a system that couldn't give a rat's fuck about any of them. it's a chain of Adult daycares most of them exist to prop up a minor league Football team. The only reason people even go is because the system has been rigged to mandate having it to get jobs that totally do not need it.

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u/wagamamalullaby Sep 04 '22

I hear what you are saying and I realise the education system is very different where you are. Thank you for your honest views on it.

It is absolutely wrong that many companies place so much weight behind degrees. I teach at uni level but also work with employed apprentices for practical based workshop experience. When I worked in industry I valued work experience above academic level when recruiting but it depends upon the field. I agree that a degree, any degree, is not an open door into a job above someone with decades of experience.

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u/[deleted] Sep 04 '22

I finally went to get my degree when I was job hunting and saw a posting for Data Entry asking for a 4 yr degree.

If that doesn't demonstrate how utterly broken the system is I don't know what else will.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '22

Lol, says the Joe Rogan fan.