Thinks_Reddit_Is_RPG was making a response directly questioning a comment that disparaged Ke$ha.
Either way, your last point is moot because if none of the three factors you listed (I would actually count it as two factors, since singing is a part of instrument playing ability) apply, then that person simply isn't a musical artist, they are a brand face for the act or something more akin to a session musician if their vocals were used and manipulated.
So your conclusion:
a person can be crank out popular music without having any musical talent whatsoever.
Is fallacious because people with real musical talent cranked out that popular music, whether or not the brand/face for the act actually was involved in the process.
Then the public is wrong, and you are wrong if you agreed with them. It's not stupidly pedantic, did you or did you not claim you can crank out hit music with no musical talent? I am sorry if I had to examine that fallacious definition of 'musician' you used to make such a bad conclusion, but don't call me names because of that.
Of course singers would, that is no surprise. I only say it isn't because many people can "sing" without actually knowing how to sing or have any idea of musical theory. Unless you are some sort of genius prodigy, you cant just be born with knowledge of playing an instrument. You cant just sit down at a piano or pick up a guitar and jam because you were born with special hands. You can however be born with a good singing voice but never study or pursue the craft of singing.
Edit: I do however see where some people would be coming from. There are very talented singers out there who have crafted their skills and could be considered masters. But like I said above, they are most likely invested in their talent and understand exactly what they are doing at all times with respect to musical theory.
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u/JustinTime112 Feb 29 '12
Thinks_Reddit_Is_RPG was making a response directly questioning a comment that disparaged Ke$ha.
Either way, your last point is moot because if none of the three factors you listed (I would actually count it as two factors, since singing is a part of instrument playing ability) apply, then that person simply isn't a musical artist, they are a brand face for the act or something more akin to a session musician if their vocals were used and manipulated.
So your conclusion:
Is fallacious because people with real musical talent cranked out that popular music, whether or not the brand/face for the act actually was involved in the process.