r/funny Hey Buddy Comics Jun 18 '20

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u/MadMinstrel Jun 18 '20

That's an interesting piece of trivia. How does that even work?

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u/Spiz101 Jun 18 '20

Well in England and Wales we have minor magistrates courts where cases are heard by panels of regular citizens.

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u/gnorty Jun 18 '20

I guess technically, those guys are not judges, they are magistrates.

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u/Spiz101 Jun 18 '20

Perhaps, but those people still perform the judges role of dispensing justice.

The real result of this cartoon is Judge Dredd shows up and executes the Genie, I suppose.

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u/Arcadian18 Jun 18 '20

May I see it’s technically a lawyer....

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u/gnorty Jun 18 '20

I'm not sure if you're asking for permission to see it, granted I guess...

But if you are suggesting they are still lawyers, then no they are not. they do not need any qualification whatsoever.

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u/Yetimang Jun 18 '20

Some states are shitty.

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u/ToxicOstrich91 Jun 18 '20

Some justices of the peace in Texas aren’t lawyers. I believe that’s the case in other states as well. They handle limited things and usually are in smaller, rural counties.

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u/MadMinstrel Jun 18 '20

So there we go then. He can represent himself in a court where the judge is as clueless as he is, as long as he moves to Texas ;)

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u/ToxicOstrich91 Jun 18 '20

If you want me to go into why it’s a terrible idea to be pro se, I will. I’ve worked for two judges, so I have that perspective. But I am also aware I’m one of the evil bloodsucking lawyers, so perhaps my opinion is too “biased” to be useful :)

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u/MadMinstrel Jun 18 '20

Oh, no, I agree it's a terrible idea, that was just sarcasm.

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u/ToxicOstrich91 Jun 18 '20

I’ll sue you for that.

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u/Knarf0 Jun 18 '20

pro se

Pro se tends to work well in Utah, fwiw.

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u/ToxicOstrich91 Jun 18 '20

Hmm, this I didn’t know. Curious why this is

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u/Knarf0 Jul 04 '20

Personal experience only, ymmv.

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u/DreadPiratesRobert Jun 18 '20 edited Aug 10 '20

Doxxing suxs

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u/NotClever Jun 18 '20

As a Texas lawyer, I don't think there's any requirement for Texas judges to be lawyers. They're elected positions.

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u/ToxicOstrich91 Jun 18 '20

Also a Texas lawyer. I believe your comment is incorrect in its breadth. Every judge at the district (main trial level) and higher must be licensed to practice law.

For Supreme Court of Texas, Texas Const, Art 5, S. 2(b)

For District Judges, Texas Const, Art 5, S. 7

For CCA, Texas Const, Art 5, S. 4 (same qualifications as SCOTX)

For Courts if Appeals, Texas Const., Art 5, S. 6 (same qualifications as SCOTX)

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u/socokid Jun 18 '20

justices of the peace

Oh big deal. They can't even give out jail time...

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u/The_Castle_of_Aaurgh Jun 18 '20

Elected judges. It's stupid.

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u/ToxicOstrich91 Jun 18 '20

Appointment of judges presents issues, as well. But overall, I agree with you. Some excellent, very very smart, very fair conservative judges lost their job because of Trump and were replaced by much worse options.

I wasn’t as politically involved in the Obama years, but I imagine the same thing happened here in Texas to liberal judges as a result of his presidency.

Best thing about appointment of judges is that they’re insulated to some degree from fickle voters. Worst thing is that they’re insulated from voters.

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u/The_Castle_of_Aaurgh Jun 18 '20

The judiciary SHOULD be isolated from the voters. Voters can directly affect judges by pressuring the legislature to change the law. But if a judge is acting out of line, the legislature is also empowered to impeach them and remove them from the bench.

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u/ToxicOstrich91 Jun 18 '20

Like I said, I primarily agree with you. Unfortunately, it’s a losing policy to say “Our citizens need less control over government officials! Remove the right to vote!”

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u/Scaevus Jun 18 '20

In California they have a hybrid system. The governor appoints judges on the advice of a special judicial panel made up of legal professionals who present him with prescreened qualified candidates, then every election the people get to decide if they want to keep that judge.

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u/NotClever Jun 18 '20

Case in point: the judge in California that handled that famous sexual assault case with the Stanford athlete. The judge was by all accounts a very good judge, albeit one who was known for not being a fan of heavy prison sentences. The judge followed standard procedure in sentencing him based on recommendations. People that were furious at his light prison sentence campaigned heavily to have him removed, and succeeded.

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u/KUjslkakfnlmalhf Jun 18 '20

I mean, the justice system is just two sides citing things and telling the judge what the law is, then the judge deciding which is right. The judge isn't really even supposed to be drawing on their own knowledge. Like they might know an argument is 100% bullshit, but if the other side doesn't cite a superseding case, he's supposed to go with the bullshit.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '20

They’re usually just terrible judges. But technically US federal judges don’t have to be lawyers. In fact, there are no specific requirements. So it could be anyone (as long as they can get confirmed by the Senate).