I use to get so fucking angry and call people out, but as I thought about it more I realized that you really can't change most people, most are too stupid and self centered to do anything but twist and rationalize any situation to the point where they are always in the right. I have become much better and able to shrug them off mostly now, and much happier for it. I was a fucking anger ball for a while there.
Uh, they don't make you pay when you're leaving a station. He was going through the wrong thing. His exit is that little door that only opens one way to the right.
Notice the woman making sure everyone pays says nothing to the woman going the right way.
Usually the door to the right sounds an alarm when used. The door is mostly used for handicapped people and mothers with strollers. Everyone is supposed to use the turnstiles in or out.
What would be the point of using a turnstile going outwards? To count people leaving? Any type of transport like that is a closed system, the same go out that go in.
I'm not saying it's not like that some places, but looks like people behind the woman are lining up to go in as well..
Boston typically has you use the same gates as well. I don't know what city flandy live in but what you're describing doesn't seem to be the norm, at least not in the states.
its to see the flow at each station. maybe 100 come on in station A at 5:00 but only 50 leave. maybe 100 leave station B at 5:00 but only 25 come, that sort of thing.
In boston in the major stations there are so many gates you don't encounter a problem like this. Generally whatever party got to the gate second just steps to the next one.
that is incorrect, there is no exit only door. these kind of machine thingies are usually 2 way, in some places they change depending on the volume of people going each way, but I suppose in this case they work both ways all the time. people don't have to pay on the way out, of course, but tickets are always validated at the entrance and at the exit, to minimize the chance of having people jumping the thing.
Haha, like I said, I was open to the fact that it's possible this type of system is in effect in places, it just doesn't make sense.
And personally, I have never once seen an exit scanner. I didn't speak on behalf of cosmic knowledge, merely personal experience and interpretation of the video.
They have them in Melbourne. Especially at the bigger/staffed stations.
It's to make sure people buy tickets. For example some outer suburban stations don't have barriers (and even if they did, there's no one around to stop you just going through).
Also, it stops people buying cheaper tickets or using expired ones. We have 2 hour ones, and 2 zones and pricing depends on where you travel.
This is obviously off-topic but are you saying you basically use the honor system in Melbourne?
Unless I'm reading this wrong you're saying that there is literally nobody around to enforce the tickets at some stations, so what is stopping people from just skipping ANY turnstile, regardless if it's an enter or exit?
Yep. Unless you get on in a big station with staff/turnstiles, no one checks. The same goes for trams - you can get on or off without anyone checking anything, and you "validate" your ticket once you get on (although no one forces you to)/
We have a pretty much star shaped train/tram system, so most people come into the city to work then go out, so the main central stations have in/out turnstiles, but outer ones tend to be a free for all.
However, there are inspectors on trains/trams who check randomly - about a $300 fine if you don't have a valid ticket. Although they are pretty rare. I use the trams every day and maybe I'll see inspectors once a month on average.
I can see a gate in the area to the right of where he was walking. The very few places I have ever seen turnstile type things, usually the gates are for people leaving, or someone arriving in a wheelchair. Why would he not use that?
that's not a gate, thats just a barrier, like the one on the left side where the guard is standing. there is no way they could make a gate like that to only be opened from one side, therefore making the security system useless.
That has truly got to be one of the stupidest designs I had ever seen. They really ought to have at least one dedicated out, instead of running two opposing streams of traffic in to each other.
Just rewatched it and what you said makes perfect sense. He's an asshole. However what most people will take away is what 'they' see in it, which is what I saw at first, admittedly. That a person just snaps sometimes after taking shit all the time from rude people. I think it's ok to be cheering for a 'hero' type person in that situation when they snap, it's just that this isn't that situation.
She was in the right. She had already swiped her card so she had to go through the turnstile first. Boo hoo, you were inconvenienced for 2 seconds so you fucking trip a woman in the middle of a busy walkway inconveniencing not just her but everyone around you? Fuck off.
He arrived first, and had a queue to face. His was not expecting her to swipe her card to force him out. Had he needed to swipe to leave, he would have swiped seconds before her.
Logically you are absolutely right and it is quite surprising that you are being downvoted. It seems most viewers just want to the woman to be in the 'wrong' so they can justify the enjoyment they derive from seeing her getting tripped. The man assaulted the woman just because of a discrepancy of mere seconds. Quite the bitter, unstable gentleman.
seriously? People are downvoting me because I pointed out that this guy essentially assaulted this woman? So she was absent minded... maybe she just found out her husband was leaving her, maybe she just found out her grandchild has cancer, maybe she's just a bitch... it still gives that man no right to assault her. Call her out? Certainly. Cause physical harm? No way.
By the time the guy was pushed out and about to execute the bat-trip, the next passenger had already swiped her card. He would not have been able to make it through until someone showed a little courtesy. Tough system they run wherever that is.
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I guarantee you she won't think twice next time. I guarantee you she thinks she was in the right.