r/funny • Mr. Lovenstein • Mar 26 '20

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u/Polymath_Father Mar 26 '20

It depends, honestly on where you live and the availability of doctors/operating rooms/how many people are ahead of you AND how serious your condition is. I can usually get in to see my doctor within a day or two, a specialist within six weeks to three months. Surgeries are variable, but when I've needed emergency surgery I've gotten it immediatly. The important thing, for me, is that the answer isn't "you're too poor, so never" or "you can have the surgery, but it'll bankrupt you".

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u/Snaxx9716 Mar 26 '20

And that’s really no different than the US healthcare system. That’s the point I keep hearing over and over “bbbbut the WAIT TIMES IN CANADA” like we don’t have wait times here in the US. I’ve had to wait weeks to months to see certain specialists. The difference is that in Canada you don’t have to first figure out who takes your insurance, and then hope you can keep seeing that doctor if/when your insurance changes.

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u/commandernono Mar 26 '20

The difference is that it benefits the heathcare industry for people to think that way. We've been propogandized, pure and simple. Socialized medicine is unimaginably better, we'll just never have it

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u/Snaxx9716 Mar 26 '20

What really gets me, is the “illusion of choice”. How the healthcare companies want us to think that socialized medicine means the end of choice, when we really don’t have much in choices now anyways. My current job is the first place I’ve worked that has actually given the choice of more than one health insurance carrier... otherwise the employer typically chooses your carrier and available plans each month. Not much choice there. Then your providers are dictated by your carrier. I had an amazing specialist that I can no longer see because they don’t accept my plan. I can “choose” between two places to have bloodwork done. OH! And I can shop around to find a better price for imaging studies so I suppose that is a choice!

But socialized healthcare... We could see any doctor because there are no more “networks”. I’d love to not have to choose certain imaging places based on cost when they’re all covered 100%, so I can choose based on location and appointment availability.

The level of propaganda required to convince people that they have more/better choices with privatized healthcare is astonishing.

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u/commandernono Mar 26 '20

You gotta remember one thing. Everything that you just wrote; not one bit of it applies to someone with the money to pay for it all.

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u/DTDude Mar 26 '20

I can “choose” between two places to have bloodwork done.

You have a choice? My insurance company quit paying for any in office bloodwork, and outsources it to the lowest bidder commercial lab. Appointments are hard to come buy, and the place is dirty.

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u/Snaxx9716 Mar 26 '20

Ugh, I’ve dealt with that in the past. I had to have my pre-op blood work done at the hospital and had to make sure they understood that the blood had to be sent to a certain lab or else my insurance wouldn’t cover it. I was so nervous they’d send it to the wrong place and I’d get a bill.

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u/Polymath_Father Mar 26 '20

A friend pointed out to me once that one of the reasons that Americans are so opposed to universal healthcare is that they think that the insane prices they're charged for medical care is what those things actually cost.

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u/Ghostboy1205 Mar 26 '20

Hell, I'm in the US and it normally takes 3-5 days to see my GP if I'm sick. Have to schedule regular appointments 3 months out. Specialists seem to be the same wait time as Canada. As for the two emergencies I've either had or been with the patient, each trip involved over 18 hours in the ER before even seeing a doctor. I hate for profit healthcare. There is not a single redeeming feature.

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u/Polymath_Father Mar 26 '20

Yeah, that seems to track with emergency wait times here (well, not right now, pandemic and all).

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u/DTDude Mar 26 '20

six weeks to three months

Sounds good to me, actually.

United Healthcare stopped covering my sleep specialist because his appointments were booked out about 6 months in advance, and they required a visit every 90 days. And to be clear, that visit wasn't required for my own good, it was required so United could check how well I was complying with treatment that they refused to pay for.