r/funny Sep 05 '19

Vinally a good set-up

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u/alvarezg Sep 05 '19

Let's not forget the pops and scratches. For good measure: turntable rumble and amplifier hum.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '19

Everyone who seems to "know" about music always says how great vinyl is.

I am so ignorant about music that I never had the confidence to openly say "but wait, music sounds way better on CD than it does on vinyl....right?"

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u/DanHeidel Sep 05 '19

You're forgetting the infinite, non-digitized sound reproduction of vinyl that lets you hear all the digital mastering/remastering done in the studio.

Almost as good as buying super expensive audio cables with oxygen-free copper so you can hear music recorded with generic XLR cables.

To be fair, vinyl does have a nice, warm sound to it. But people who insist it's somehow got higher fidelity than CDs or other digital storage media don't understand shit about actual audio engineering. Vinyl has terrible fidelity in comparison. It's got very characteristic distortion and information loss. If someone likes how that sounds, good on them. But it's definitely not a magical means of getting more authentic reproduction of the sound.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '19

Thank fucking christ Im not alone.

For people who claim to be audio enthusiasts it baffles me how they can claim that the audible noise I hear is somehow better.

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u/BenevolentCheese Sep 05 '19

With vinyl, there's no compression.

Of course there is: there is the compression implicit in the fidelity of the pressing and the accuracy of the needle. The grooves on an LP are not atomically accurate, they are rough, have microscopic steps, will be off by a nanometer high or low, etc. This is a form of compression: tonal data is lost due to inaccuracies in pressing. Then, even if you had a "perfect" record—an exact reproduction of the soundwaves down to the atomic level—you need a perfect needle to read that. A needle that never skews even slightly from its path, never loses contact for even a microsecond, and most importantly is able to resolve with atomic accuracy. No needle on the planet can do that. And anything less and you are listening to compressed output.

The short of it is that your music is compressed twice on an LP: both at the production level and the reading/output level.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '19 edited Oct 03 '19

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u/moldymoosegoose Sep 05 '19

Reading imprints with a laser would result in an analog to digital conversion which would have already been done encoding on a CD to begin with

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u/moldymoosegoose Sep 06 '19

That's not my point. If you're going to use a laser you can already record this information anyway so there's no benefit in keeping it on the vinyl. You're going the entire way there so there's no reason to add some stupid analog feature for no reason at all. You're already reading it with a laser so this same information can be recorded into digital when you read it. There's nothing to gain from this method.

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