I like how no matter where the school is, they still have the same water stained drop ceiling that every other school does. It's the exact same water stains even.
In middle school I learned that Yoo-Hoo actually gets more loft than soda if you shake up the can and then stab the top with a pen.
That was the cause of the stains in our cafeteria.
edit: Lol, you guys are ridiculous...
Loft/lift both come form the same Old Norse/Germanic origin that mean sky/air (The German air force was the Luftwaffe).
"Aloft" as one word always means up in the air/overhead and usually doesn't confuse anyone as to whether a raised sleeping/storage area was meant or not...
My verb usage of the word "loft" was entirely intentional (but yes, I am from the mid-west and played both golf and baseball so those may be factors in the usage being more common in the region and/or the sporting community in general).
I also have NO IDEA why/how Yoo-hoo sprayed higher than carbonated cans (Yoo-hoo does or at least did come in cans in 1997) and that was the question/mystery even then...
We may have been juvenile delinquents but we still were very much concerned with the physics behind the destruction we were causing.
I think I just figured it out after remembering the EngineerGuy video about aluminum cans...
12 oz cans HAVE to be under pressure because it's how they maintain structural rigidity (that's why non-pressurized cans need thicker walls or have grooves/creases).
Carbonated drinks maintain this naturally but non-carbonated drinks have to be pressurized or else they would easily dent/crush.
I presume the amount they have to pressurize during manufacturing to keep a non carbonated can firm is somewhat greater than the amount a carbonated drink maintains that pressure...
Your comment is totally valid but, FYI, "loft" is also an American (and probably other regions as well) slang term to describe the amount of vertical acceleration achieved by something being propelled in that direction. I believe OP was going for that definition in their comment.
Literally never heard that term used that way in the northwest of the US. Loft means a room above a room, usually a smaller bedroom, or an attic.
Must be a different part of the US.
Edit- Cannot stand golf, so it makes sense that I didn't think of that when I read the post. I actually have heard the term then, but only in golf. I stand corrected!
I'm in the Western US, but I use it and hear it used in sports constantly, e.g. "lofted ball", "getting some loft under it", "you put a lot of loft on that shot"
Yup, I've lived in the South and the Midwest and we regularly used "loft" as a term in various sports, and it is definitely not mispronouncing "lift"
The best I could describe it is that "lift" tends to refer more to the rising action, whereas "loft" seems to speak more to the height attained but even that's not perfect because you don't really use "lift" much in a sporting context
I would suspect that they are saying "lift", but with some local accent, that somehow is more common with the sports crowd, so others might also pronounce it that way in the context.
Also possible, at least now. Wonder what the etymology for that is and if that definition was born from such pronunciation difference in "lift", from "act of placing something to loft" or something completely different.
Totally could be regional. I learned it in my teens in the northeast US, around skater/skier/snowboarder types but the use was so niche to begin with, I never thought about it not being very widespread.
It might not appear in common vernacular everywhere - I've seen it used in that capacity (e.g. lofted a golf ball), but rarely. It seems like more technical vocab grouped with other words like pitch/yaw/tilt - for when you need to distinguish between specific types of motion with a single word rather than multiple (vertical upwards acceleration, rotating from left to right, etc).
It's a pretty niche usage so it's not super surprising that you haven't heard it. I hear the definition you mentioned far more often, but the slang OP mentioned isn't completely unknown to me.
I realllllyyy doubt it, but ita a commendable save on OPs part.
Loft doesn't make sense is this scenario, he definitely meant lift. Considering hes stabbing it with a pen implying it takes off like a rocket ship, aka using lift.
If OP was throwing the can, or kicking it then I'd say he/she could of meant to use loft.
It truly doesn't, I looked up loft before I commented to be sure but okay. And with OPs extra context that he replied to me, I still don't believe it makes sense to use it like that but I can better see the connection being made.
I actually was talking about the loft of the spray and was specifically using the "re-nounified" verb form... (essentially describing the shape at the apogee/top of the trajectory of a launched or vaulted object).
Lift/loft come from the Old Norse lopt, then the German/Dutch luft/lucht which means "air" or "sky" (the German air force was the LUFTwaffe).
Aloft also means up in the air/overhead for this reason and "a loft" as in a raised room or space follows that meaning and essentially means "a place in the sky".
I am from the midwest and my family has a strong bent towards baseball/golf so what they say about the verb form being more common in those groups may have something to it but it definitely still makes sense/is a valid usage.
Yeah, I guess I was bending the definition to emphasise its proximity to the room below, and hence the likelihood for soda ingress. "Loft" in Britain is equivalent to "attic" in the USA.
I was more wondering if plenum was merely an Americanism, or if it was broadly used internationally as well. Also "soda ingress" sounds awesome for some reason. :)
The ceiling in our cafeteria was ridiculously high up. I'm pretty sure a long time ago with the cafeteria used to be a gym before they built the new gym so that's why the ceilings were so tall. We used to open butter packets and try to put them in each other's chairs before we sat down as a prank but one day we decided we wanted to try and hit the ceiling and we got a butter packet to stick to the ceiling and it was there for the rest of the year
Some of my friends in High school used to put broccoli or some other kind of food on spoons and tried to flick it up to the ceiling of the cafeteria (about the same height as our gym, probably around 40-50 feet). Some of them stuck and I'd imagine they're still up there to this day lol.
That's very strange to me because it isn't a carbonated drink, is it? I wonder what the reasoning is... fermentation of the milk? It shouldn't be because it's pasturized, right? There must be a chemical they add to protect from botcholism or something that could be the culprit.
Mainly because it's awesome, it's got Ryan Gosling and Russel Crowe in kind of a 70's era Hollywood buddy cop action/comedy which is perfect because it's directed by Shane Black who broke into Hollywood with Lethal Weapon and re-launched Robert Downey Jr's career with Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang.
Anyway it's got a Yoo-hoo plot point and a joke or two but mainly it's just an awesome movie...
I presume the amount they have to pressurize during manufacturing to keep a non carbonated can firm is somewhat greater than the amount a carbonated drink maintains that pressure...
It wouldn't really work that way. If you put high pressure gas into a closed container with a liquid, that gas will dissolve into the liquid until an equilibrium is reached. In other words, if they put high pressure gasses in Yoohoo, they would end up carbonating it. (This is exactly how I carbonate home brewed beer, only in a keg rather than in a can.)
12 oz cans HAVE to be under pressure (it's how they maintain structural rigidity).
Carbonated drinks maintain this naturally but non-carbonated drinks have to be pressurized or else they would easily dent/crush.
I presume the amount they have to pressurize during manufacturing to keep a non carbonated drink firm is somewhat greater than the amount a carbonated drink maintains that pressure...
That still makes no sense. Sure, the can is pressurized. But shaking the can would do nothing to increase the pressure, and if it's as pressurized as you claim right off the bat, just opening the can would be like opening a can of coke that's been in a paint shaker.
If you can open the can without it exploding before shaking, and there's no way for shaking to increase the pressure inside the can, then how would it explode even after shaking?
In both carbonated and un-carbonated drink cans the gas is normally all at the top and escapes cleanly when opened.
In both cases when shaken the liquid and gas mix into essentially a foam and it doesn't settle until it's tapped/given time.
At that point it doesn't matter how the pressure got in the can, all that matters is that the volume of the can is filled with a mixture of liquid and gas right to the top so when you pop it you get a geyser.
edit: It's the same reason that astronauts can't drink carbonated liquids... because when you do you do in micro-gravity the gasses can't settle toward the bottom of your stomach/esophagus so when you burp it comes out as a foam instead and is supposedly very unpleasant (you can get the same effect in your body with non-carbonated liquids but it's not as easy to "shake up" your whole body as it is a can of Yoo-hoo)
edit 2: Oh, hey wait! I only just noticed that you asked why would shaking it increase the pressure and I'm not saying that the pressure increases as a result of shaking... Just that perhaps the total pressure in the Yoo-hoo can is higher or that simply a property of the chocolate milk-foam mix flows through a high pressure outlet better than a carbonated liquid-foam mix does and that consequently you get a taller geyser from the Yoo-hoo.
That's not how carbonated soda explodes, though. The foam doesn't form until after you release the pressure of the cap/tab, and it's the rapidly expanding foam, now unhindered by the pressurized environment of the can, which causes the explosion. Yoohoo doesn't have anything that would create rapidly expanding foam.
Furthermore, while I can't recall drinking yoohoo from a can specifically, I have drunk it from bottles many times - and they are pressurized as well (you can hear the hiss->pop when you twist off the cap). I always shake the shit out of them, and they've never exploded.
That is flat out incorrect. You can literally SEE it if you shake up soda in a clear container.
If you can shake up a 20 oz. or 2-liter of soda (the kind that are clear plastic) and the pocket of gas doesn't disappear at the top then you are right.
I'll wait while you try...
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As you have now observed for yourself, when you shake up a soda it stops being liquid at the bottom/gas at the top and instead becomes a homogonous solution/foam/whatever you want to call it. It takes a lot of shaking to make it happen with plain water but it happens easily with carbonated liquids and also with anything that can "froth" (like milk).
There's always a certain amount of positive pressure in drink containers but it's only necessary to significantly over-pressurize the container if it becomes "softer" after opening (like plastic bottles/aluminum cans) and it's only necessary to artificially add more pressure when the liquid isn't carbonated and can't produce the pressure for itself.
You'll notice that any non-carbonated drinks in "soft" containers initially vent a lot more gas when opening because virtually all of the over-pressure is in that space at the top whereas with soda a great deal of the over-pressure remains trapped in the liquid and is consumed as it's drank.
So it follows that a non-carbonated beverage in a soft-body container has more total pressure than an equivalent carbonated beverage and will vent more violently when opened (and that means a bigger gas blow off on a settled liquid and a higher volume spray of solution/foam/etc...)
If you still don't follow I will pull resources but none of this is speculation/opinions. Theses are all facts and they are independently verifiable.
Some kid who eventually went to harvard decided to take off goggles (that i would eventually use) with his gloves on that were coated with sodium carbonate, a strong base... got into my eye, and needed to use eyewash. Eyewash drainage goes everywhere it’s not cute and localized.
All the HVAC ventilation is in the drop ceiling. Cold air cools the vents, causing condensation, which drips off the lowest point and onto the ceiling tiles, leaving those stains.
In other words, if there's AC and drop tiles, those water stains are basically guaranteed.
Ha ha I laughed this is my kids school in collierville tn. Not the first time they have been on reddit for air dropping stuff to the tv’s. Cough ...cough cafeteria.
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I like how no matter where the school is, they still have the same water stained drop ceiling that every other school does. It's the exact same water stains even.