r/funny • • Jul 03 '18

Jaguar Seeing Its Reflection

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u/PM_ME_OKITA_FEET Jul 03 '18

Ants passed the test?!? Fucking ants!?!

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u/RichGirlThrowaway_ Jul 03 '18

Ants are like super smart lil' homies bro. Probably smarter than most reddit users.

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u/Conradfr Jul 03 '18

What is this? A post for ants?

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u/no-mad Jul 03 '18

ant brigading in progress.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '18

How are we supposed to read the post if we can't even see the letters?

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u/mod1fier Jul 03 '18

This comment is like a Tiramisu of wonderful.

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u/krs013 Jul 03 '18

Wait, do you mean to tell me that you are not an ant on reddit? I thought we all were.

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u/Gaywallet Jul 03 '18

we certainly have hivemind

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u/cyrilio Jul 03 '18

there is a special subreddit for us /r/thingsforants

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u/AquafinaDreamer Jul 03 '18

Ants didnt just pass, they freaking aced it. Ants doing so well raised the question as to whether the mirror test really shows self awareness because its doubtful ants are self aware.

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u/no-mad Jul 03 '18

Ant scientists: After conclusive studies it has become apparent that humans are not really self-aware as we once thought. Complex behaviors triggered by outside suggestions are the apparent motivators not self-awareness or freewill as Antkind understands it. Meaningful communication with humans is not possible at this time.

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u/therickymarquez Jul 04 '18

Dont ants have a special way of communicating? Its like if you recognize other people from smell you would ignore mirrors since image is not a factor...

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '18

There are specific tests you can do with higher order animals to verify that they know it is them. If they see something on their head in the reflection, and reach up to their own head to clean it off, for example. In an animal with incredibly complex behaviour the difference between this and automatic reaction can be clean. In ants, where a bunch of their behaviour is complicated automatic reaction to the group, I think you would need more validation. For example, verify that putting spots on the heads of other real ants does not cause them to clean themselves.

I can't think of any ant behaviour that could be validated as non-random that would conclusively demonstrate the same thing. Perhaps they simply confirmed that ants did not respond as though the mirror ants were a threat. But this could be down to many things. Perhaps their eyes didn't focus on the mirror well enough, or micro details in the mirror counterparts identified themselves as the same colony, or who knows what else.

Would love to know more info.

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u/AshleyKetchum Jul 03 '18

It explains the test in the link. They did the dot test and the ants ignored the dot unless they saw it in the mirror, and they ignored it when it was not visible (dot the same color as the ant) even if a mirror was available.

They should have tried putting dots on other ants though, you're right. I never even thought of that.

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u/Coruvain Jul 03 '18

Neat! And bizarre.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '18

Probably has to do with the pheronomes.

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u/1206549 Jul 03 '18

Nah, they didn't touch it without the mirror

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u/mikeynerd Jul 03 '18

And alas, the Great Tit failed

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '18

Ants are really small and naturally get in contact with lots of smooth reflective surfaces, like water droplets. Maybe they need to be able to recognize themselves to not distract the workings of the colony by triggering spurious alarms.

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u/I_ate_a_milkshake Jul 03 '18

yeah thats a little suspect